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Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

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Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

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I need a list of countries not to visit. So far I have UK, China, Singapore. But maybe I should accept less rights when traveling.

Why UK?

Too many cameras and not enough food.

Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

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That's not supported by the polling. >From everything you have seen and heard, do you support or oppose the recent rules requiring age verification to access websites that may contain pornographic material?* >80% support https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/52693-how-have-britons-rea... >The Essential poll found majority support for a range reforms to improve online safety including: [...] enforcing age verifications fo…

There was no option to select no! Only which age you wanted the ban to start

See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48674572

Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

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The country that really refined mass surveillance in the digital age, China, has seen tons of investment from people who want to see big returns and for the workers to be kept in line (by force if necessary) and many countries want that sort of "prosperity" for themselves, which means sucking up to the investor class, which includes people like Peter Thiel and Larry Ellison.

If you do business with totalitarian states, there's a good chance you become one.

Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

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If you're not fabricating your own silicon, you are OWNED.

Lock in, that's not true. https://xcancel.com/GrapheneOS/search?f=tweets&q=Backdoor&si...

What point are you trying to make? Its not obvious from the link.

Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

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Spoiler alert : Singapore won the race years ago. Cameras everywhere, and mostly : the singaporian civilian population is educated to surveil peers so that they don't commit incivilities. Here is an article about it : https://gcctvms.com/smart-city-surveillance-singapore-camera...

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Why are you not living there anymore? I understand the trade-offs, but I hate the feeling of constant surveillance. And knowing that I'm a minority in this subject, I'm aware that I'm probably going to be at the loser side in this battle. However, I'm still sad thinking that I could be a criminal in the future by being naked at my own house.

Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

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Spoiler alert : Singapore won the race years ago. Cameras everywhere, and mostly : the singaporian civilian population is educated to surveil peers so that they don't commit incivilities. Here is an article about it : https://gcctvms.com/smart-city-surveillance-singapore-camera...

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This assumes your government, or whoever is monitoring and handling said surveillance info, is doing so with good intentions and adequate security/privacy.

For some, that level of trust is unobtainable.

Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

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Spoiler alert : Singapore won the race years ago. Cameras everywhere, and mostly : the singaporian civilian population is educated to surveil peers so that they don't commit incivilities. Here is an article about it : https://gcctvms.com/smart-city-surveillance-singapore-camera...

I need a list of countries not to visit. So far I have UK, China, Singapore. But maybe I should accept less rights when traveling.

All the ones that force you to give up passwords would be on many peoples' list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_disclosure_law?lang=en

Ireland... I'm disappointed.

Re: Countries are competing to see which can carry out mass surveillance the best

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it really difficult to take this polling at face value. average people typically hear only one side of the argument: "age verification will stop kids from accessing harmful sites". they don't hear about all of the potential downsides, knock-on effects, chilling effects, etc. unless they are part of niche groups like HN. and even if they do, in passing, they often lack the technical knowledge to really understand the…

This is a problem with current implementations of democracy. It's free elections, but it's not informed elections. The average voter has very little clue about what they are voting for. Arguably it's impossible to know in a representative democracy. Not that I know how to do it better, but it's definitely an issue, possibly one that could be solved somehow.

Probably with better education.
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