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Fuck the cloud (2009)

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Re: Fuck the cloud (2009)

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You can still borrow a lot at your local library and rip them yourself.

That’s still pirating.

Is it though?

He wouldn't have paid for it either way, or would have either way due to taxes and how a lot of libraries work.

And it wouldn't have taken anything away from the library itself or other library customers.

Re: Fuck the cloud (2009)

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> * In contrast, "all my photos are in the cloud and my friends and family can collaborate on shared albums" is different, it permanently moves the locus of control. No, it doesn't. You're fooling yourself. All the criticism of "cloud" providers is predicated on a presumption of bad faith on the part of the provider. Do the same to Amazon and Dropbox and you get the same risk. More actually, since you're not just sto…

You're still against against a strawman. Please re-read this part of TFA: > Don’t trust the Cloud to safekeep this stuff. Hell yeah, use the Cloud, blow whatever you want into the Cloud. The Internet’s a big copy machine, as they say. Blow copies into the Cloud. But please: (1) Don’t blow anything into the Cloud that you don’t have a personal copy of. ____________ Here's an analogy for how I feel things are going. Ke…

> You're still against against a strawman.

No, I was arguing with you, who posited that the difference between Dropbox and iCloud Photos was the "locus of control" and the "change in consumer relationship". That's not an argument about data reliability, it's an argument from trust. And it didn't make sense to me.

Re: Fuck the cloud (2009)

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>I feel like I have a good idea how EV owners feel right now. (We have a Prius.) The difference is that you don't own your EV, it is a computer on wheel. Any firmware update like Tesla has done in the past and features are no longer available. That is totally opposite of homelab, you have full control, you flash firmware that gives you full control over devices. I am hard core Linux user, my wireless access point run…

> The difference is that you don't own your EV You could unplug or shield the cellular modem to take the car "offline."

EV is a computer and designed to work as such.

Make it go offline and watch things going south haha

Re: Fuck the cloud (2009)

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> The difference is that you don't own your EV You could unplug or shield the cellular modem to take the car "offline."

EV is a computer and designed to work as such. Make it go offline and watch things going south haha

Like… what? I won’t get traffic on my navigation? My maps will get outdated?

Re: Fuck the cloud (2009)

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https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10771539

Thanks, Macroexpanded, and some others too... Fuck the Cloud (2009) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10771539 - Dec 2015 (219 comments) Fuck the cloud (2009) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2984083 - Sept 2011 (2 comments) Fuck the Cloud - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=441885 - Jan 2009 (23 comments)

Classics never go out of style.

Re: Fuck the cloud (2009)

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...and the person just lost the majority of traffic that wouldve went to his site

yeah I'm sure Jason is just fine with that.

Yes, I've taken a long walk and spoken with my team and I'm emotionally fine with the situation.

Re: Fuck the cloud (2009)

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Resource Limit Is Reached - Hug of death

That's really odd. If I remember correctly Jason Scott has talked in his podcast about how textfiles.com is a co-lo'd self hosted box. I wonder what "resource limit" got hit.

Well, ASCII is a different box than textfiles.com. I suppose I could host the site on that box, but I have a rule with the original textfiles.com that no scripts are being run on it, hence less chance of hacking, etc. Someday I'll figure out the exact right setting for ASCII to not do this when a few thousand people hit it, but honestly, it is very hard to care.

Re: Fuck the cloud (2009)

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Up to early 2000s, people would go to the internet to have fun, everything was new, it was the mass migration from analog to digital era. 2020s, people are going offline to have fun. Homelab is becoming a thing even for people who never had experience with computer, people hosting their own documents, movies, music, backups in case things go bad. Even some companies have realised the price of going cloud, some are mo…

This is very much bubble thinking.

The traffic on every social media is increasing.

There is no mass creation of homelabs and no this will also not be “The Year of Linux on the Desktop”

Also “some companies” is amorphous. All of the cloud providers announced record revenue growth gated only by a lack of being able to get chips

Re: Fuck the cloud (2009)

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> If we are to solve this problem, we're going to have to make self-hosting easy enough It used to be easy enough in the 90s, when plenty of folks had their own custom website. You signed up with a hosting company; they provided you with a bunch of different ways to upload files; your website was hosted. Of late, I've decided that the problem is that HTML development halted at what is still a very beta product. HTMX…

> You signed up with a hosting company; they provided you with a bunch of different ways to upload files; your website was hosted. But that is not self-hosting. You're still using a cloud service. The problem is how to run something local, at home, that you have full control over

This is pre-virtualization, so it's not the cloud either
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