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Trump fires Pam Bondi as attorney general

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Re: Trump fires Pam Bondi as attorney general

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Post by JKCalhoun »

nondrool wrote: post #99
happytoexplain wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump's abuse of the presidential pardon is so hideous, I wouldn't be surprised if this power granted by the original US Constitution is amended after he leaves, in response to his unprecedented lack of respect for it. However, I also wouldn't be surprised if nobody in power ever possesses the strength of character or simple morality to do so.

How so? Serious question too, as last I heard of any pardons it was Biden giving his son, and others, blanket pardons going back to 2014. Didn't even think that was possible to just willy nilly give pardons on anything and everything for a whole decade.

Have you been out of the loop on the various Trump pardon's?

The blanket January 6 Capitol assault pardons?

Drug trafficking Juan Orlando Hernandez?

To name a few.

Re: Trump fires Pam Bondi as attorney general

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Post by JKCalhoun »

pseudohadamard wrote: post #96
salawat wrote: post #57

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We had safety measures. It was called the Electoral College, and the entire reason it was put there was to get a small group of people separated from groupthink to really think " Are you SURE this is the right candidate?" Then states decided to pass laws to penalize the act of being a faithless elector, which is EXACTLY the mechanism of protection to keep a demagogue out of office. You can't sit here and whine about…

That's what continues to amaze me about this, there's numerous news stories saying his approval rating is down to 33% but what it actually means is that fully a third of all Americans are quite happy with having a dementia patient running the country. All it then takes is another 20% who aren't that happy but also not unhappy enough to do anything for him to keep pushing the US further off the cliff. At the risk of i…

> it actually means is that fully a third of all Americans are quite happy with having a dementia patient running the country

Or that they think (somehow?) that the alternative would be worse.

Re: Trump fires Pam Bondi as attorney general

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Post by JKCalhoun »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #44
salawat wrote: post #36

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I don't think we should change it. I think we as a nation need to understand the person we put in that office has that power, and choose accordingly . It's there for a reason. Sometimes, it's perfectly acceptable for the President to say "fuck this shit" for the good of the Nation. With that power though, comes the responsibility to wield it with respect. This country put the man abusing it in power . No one had seco…

> This country put the man abusing it in power. Twice. I can forgive the mistake once, but this is the second time in 10 years that America is facing this nonsense with the exact same demagogue.

(You're more forgiving than I am.)

Re: Trump fires Pam Bondi as attorney general

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Post by JKCalhoun »

NewJazz wrote: post #90
CodeWriter23 wrote: post #12

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Also with Swallwell becoming aware the FBI had him under investigation. And he and Bondi are buds.

Who?

Random news article I pulled up: "FBI Director Kash Patel is reportedly seeking to release files related to the Democratic lawmaker's previous association with a suspected Chinese intelligence operative."

Re: Trump fires Pam Bondi as attorney general

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Post by JKCalhoun »

legitster wrote: post #24
mykowebhn wrote: post #6

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That the Citizens United Supreme Court ruling may have been the single worst thing to happen to the US.

??? People bring this up regularly, but I don't think it's that relevant. Studies regularly show that campaign contributions actually have very low influence on elections. Trump notably had much smaller campaign budgets than his opponents in both winning elections, not even including the massive amounts of brazen fraud he used to pay himself with the money. Fundamentally, it's presidential democracy that is flawed. W…

Maybe you can convince yourself that both are problems (and the U.S. should endeavor to address both).

Re: Trump fires Pam Bondi as attorney general

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Post by guzfip »

voganmother42 wrote: post #95
DivingForGold wrote: post #92

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Never ceases to amaze me how all these lib newsites says Pam was "FIRED", when in fact it's FAKE NEWS. Pam was plumb worn out and chose to move on to private practice and chill out a bit.

How else is she going to get the dow back above 50k? Being a soulless lying ghoul is tiring though, so that checks out!

The remaining “true believers” are so fucking stupid now I can genuinely not tell parody from the real thing. I don’t think I’ve seen a more desperate cope yet.

Re: Trump fires Pam Bondi as attorney general

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Post by JKCalhoun »

alecbz wrote: post #34
legitster wrote: post #24

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??? People bring this up regularly, but I don't think it's that relevant. Studies regularly show that campaign contributions actually have very low influence on elections. Trump notably had much smaller campaign budgets than his opponents in both winning elections, not even including the massive amounts of brazen fraud he used to pay himself with the money. Fundamentally, it's presidential democracy that is flawed. W…

> if enough people want to willing vote in a corrupt president Why do people do this though? Maybe it's inevitable, but I think there was a lot of pent up frustration with the government that led a lot of people to just say "fuck it". Not really excusing it (especially for his second term), but I feel like we're reaping years and years of a dysfunctional and ineffectual congress. Not that that's an especially easy pr…

I agree there is a lot of pent up frustration in the U.S. and the GOP did a bang-up job of cultivating this frustration. And now that they have their chance at bat they seem to be striking out.

At the risk of my analogy making something serious sound like a game, I'd like to see another team have a chance at bat.

Re: Trump fires Pam Bondi as attorney general

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Post by JKCalhoun »

mothballed wrote: post #77
sizzzzlerz wrote: post #13

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Chapter 3 - United States of America b. July 4, 1776, d. January 20, 2024. It was good while it lasted.

I'd argue it died during the civil war. The removal of secession as an option removes the most powerful check on federal power and set the cards for a collapse of constitutional constraints. Obligatory worth it cuz muh no more slavery (as if the white powers that be were ever really willing to die as a favor to the slaves themselves, one of the most laughable but widespread myths about the civil war).

If we're playing armchair historian, my graph would begin its descent with President Kennedy's assassination. As a country I am not sure we ever recovered.

Re: Trump fires Pam Bondi as attorney general

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nondrool wrote: post #99
happytoexplain wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump's abuse of the presidential pardon is so hideous, I wouldn't be surprised if this power granted by the original US Constitution is amended after he leaves, in response to his unprecedented lack of respect for it. However, I also wouldn't be surprised if nobody in power ever possesses the strength of character or simple morality to do so.

How so? Serious question too, as last I heard of any pardons it was Biden giving his son, and others, blanket pardons going back to 2014. Didn't even think that was possible to just willy nilly give pardons on anything and everything for a whole decade.

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