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Trump fires Pam Bondi as attorney general

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Re: Trump fires Pam Bondi as attorney general

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Post by dirtbagskier »

salawat wrote: post #57
fhdkweig wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think we as a nation need to understand the person we put in that office has that power, and choose accordingly. That's like taking the safety off a gun to remind people to be responsible. That doesn't work, and irresponsible people's decisions can negatively affect everyone (including other countries). We need all the safety measures we can get.

We had safety measures. It was called the Electoral College, and the entire reason it was put there was to get a small group of people separated from groupthink to really think " Are you SURE this is the right candidate?" Then states decided to pass laws to penalize the act of being a faithless elector, which is EXACTLY the mechanism of protection to keep a demagogue out of office. You can't sit here and whine about…

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Re: Trump fires Pam Bondi as attorney general

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Post by dirtbagskier »

CodeWriter23 wrote: post #12
cosmicgadget wrote: post #8

The timing coincides with her office getting embarrassed in front of the Supreme Court, with Trump in artendance. P2025 had a plan but it was always going to struggle against the president's personality issues.

Also with Swallwell becoming aware the FBI had him under investigation. And he and Bondi are buds.

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quickthrowman wrote: post #32
cosmicgadget wrote: post #8

The timing coincides with her office getting embarrassed in front of the Supreme Court, with Trump in artendance. P2025 had a plan but it was always going to struggle against the president's personality issues.

Trying to argue the 14th amendment doesn’t read as plainly as it does was a no-win situation. The government would have to argue it does not have jurisdiction (subject to the jurisdiction thereof) over illegal immigrants which would seemingly (IANAL) mean they’re immune to prosecution for any crime. You could probably find a hair splitting argument that the child must be born in an actual ‘State’, but aside from that…

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Re: Trump fires Pam Bondi as attorney general

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Post by fhdkweig »

nabbed wrote: post #70
readthenotes1 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I'm not worked up at all about the auto-pen. But presidents should not be pardoning friends and family (although friends seem to get pardoned quite frequently). If a president feels it's important to do so, that president should wait until they are an ex-president and petition the next person in power.

Even that doesn't seem appropriate. Nixon resigned knowing that his VP would take over and pardoned him. It still seems self-serving.

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Post by expedition32 »

josefritzishere wrote: post #3

If there are still history books in the future... what will they think of all this?

Ever read "the history of the decline and fall of the Roman empire" by Gibbon? It's actually quite amusing until you realise humanity hasn't changed one iota.

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Post by mothballed »

sizzzzlerz wrote: post #13
josefritzishere wrote: post #3

If there are still history books in the future... what will they think of all this?

Chapter 3 - United States of America b. July 4, 1776, d. January 20, 2024. It was good while it lasted.

I'd argue it died during the civil war. The removal of secession as an option removes the most powerful check on federal power and set the cards for a collapse of constitutional constraints. Obligatory worth it cuz muh no more slavery (as if the white powers that be were ever really willing to die as a favor to the slaves themselves, one of the most laughable but widespread myths about the civil war).

Re: Trump fires Pam Bondi as attorney general

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Post by jamesgill »

QuantumGood wrote: post #64
jamesgill wrote: post #51

The bus is always idling at the curb; Trump cronies never seem to realize that eventually, everyone gets thrown under it.

Bondi lasted a record 38 Scaramuccis

I forgot: the Curb-to-Bus (CtB) transit time is measured in Scaramuccis.
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