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My dad could still be alive, but he's not

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Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

#101

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> One of them nearly killed my mom, and another one was suspended due to malpractice and performing research fraud, but was given her license back How does alleged research fraud affect someone’s ability to be a caregiver?

Lol the idea that a scamster will only pull one scam in their life is such a gullible position hahaha.

> Lol the idea that a scamster will only pull one scam in their life is such a gullible position hahaha.

The doctor gets paid irrespective of their diagnosis—and I am yet to hear of a conspiracy where the doctor makes more money when their patients die.

Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

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This story reminds me of how the high schoolers on the Korean ferry MV Sewol obeyed the instructions to stay in their rooms.

Just read about it on Wikipedia. Straight up murder. This isn't "you shouldn't follow instructions" but more "dont get murdered". They 2x overloaded cargo, made it loose, captain abandons ship while staying in place order remains.

Yeah this is really way out there. The crew and captian straight up murdered those passengers. There was literally no reason to tell the students to stay put there were even rescue boats available.

Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

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> Do you really think health workers are all concerned about legalities first? 100%. Legal issues are a huge deal in healthcare. This is a snippet from a study [1] on the topic, just to get an idea of the scale (which I think most do not realize at all): --- Each year during the study period, 7.4% of all physicians had a malpractice claim, with 1.6% having a claim leading to a payment (i.e., 78% of all claims did not…

My vent: I have very mild cerebral palsy- it affects my left hand and left foot slightly. But properly conditioned, I’ve run half marathons and ended up in the middle of the pack and I’ve been a gym rat and in above average shape all of my adult life. That being said, anytime I’m looking on the web doing research, the first thing you find are lawyers looking to sue doctors. I absolutely hate that’s the first thing pa…

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Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

#104

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> One of them nearly killed my mom, and another one was suspended due to malpractice and performing research fraud, but was given her license back How does alleged research fraud affect someone’s ability to be a caregiver?

She blamed the research fraud on her assistant when she was initially accused of it and denied all liabilities. She only admitted to it after they had her cornered. I had her as my endocrinologist for a while and I would not recommend her. Edit: if you want to have a care-taker who doesn't mind lying or is a psychopath, you do you but it's a no go for me.

> if you want to have a care-taker who doesn't mind lying or is a psychopath, you do you but it's a no go for me.

We've gone from accused of research fraud to psychopath.

My original point is that I don't see how the effort to produce new knowledge has any bearing on the appropriate management of diabetes/thyroid hormone.

Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

#105
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I can speak to this. I recently joined a community first responder association (I've always wanted to know what to do in case of a medical emergency) and was shocked to hear the members' horror stories of how long it can take an ambulance to arrive. Like the author, I grew up with the narrative "in trouble, call the ambulance, they'll scream through the streets to get to you in moments". That might still be true wher…

Would that first responder association be Good Sam?

https://www.goodsamapp.org/oz

I've been thinking of joining that.

Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

#106

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I'm coming at this as someone who had an MI at a relatively young age: For the goals -- and this may differ between EMT / paramedic & protocols -- but I would really wish that there was a blood draw done in the field. Before they bring you to the cath lab with a suspected MI, the ER is likely going to draw blood to get troponin levels at a 2-hour interval. You could save some time & heart muscle by getting a blood sa…

Maybe paramedics, but basic EMTs don’t even start IVs where I am— It’s the sort of thing you can get certified to do in a few weeks and pays about as much as entry-level fast food work. Phlebotomy is a lot more nuanced afaik.

There's a lot of interesting research on paramedics vs emts (I believe the term of art is basic life support vs advanced cardiac life support). In areas where there is a good ER, it's better to have low level basic life support and break the sound barrier to the ER than do significant intervention on site but slow arrival at the hospital, as far as I am aware.

Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

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First, I want to offer my condolences to the author. I lost my father suddenly at a similar age—it's terrible. Sending positive energy. Former Firefighter-EMT here — I did this a long time ago in a rural setting). Now to the practical matter. I want to offer some frameworks for thinking about this in rural or exurban transport situations. This is not risk-free or even optimal, and can put you in worse position, but it's worth considering seriously if you suspect you may have a very long or delayed transport time to the hospital.

Before anything else, ask yourself two things:

Would this person possibly benefit from (A) an automatic external defibrillator (AED) or (B) Narcan[1]?

Can the person safely get into a car and be driven to the hospital?

If the answer to 1A or 1B is YES: Don't drive. Call 911, clearly state "cardiac arrest," or "overdose" give your exact location, and start effective CPR if required. A police officer with an AED will likely arrive quickly. Getting the location right is critical—this is life-saving information.

If 1A/1B don't apply and you can answer YES to question 2: You have some thinking to do. I suggest doing it now, in advance, whenever you move—think through how you'd handle massive bleeding, heart attack, or stroke symptoms.

It's worth briefly considering emergency scenarios and the risks you're willing to accept. Ambulances or fire engines sometimes can't reach you quickly: logistical issues, mechanical failures, dispatcher problems, insufficient volunteers. In rural settings during a cardiac event, waiting thirty minutes for basic EMS care—followed by a 30-60 minute hospital transport when you have alternative transportation—may not be your best choice. Even in a volunteer live-in program with career-grade response times, I found it could take 20-30 minutes to reach people at the edge of our territory. That's not counting the 2-3 minutes to get us awake and out the door at the station, plus another 2-3 for dispatch.

My household is minutes from two decent suburban EDs (we're lucky). Certain situations would lead us to skip 911 and drive straight to the ED: massive hemorrhage or an obvious heart attack when another adult is present to drive. This requires nuance. Time saved by skipping the ambulance can easily be lost to an incompetent admissions screener. You need to use the magic words: "heart attack," "chest pain," "think I am going to die." If you're having a stroke, you may not be able to drive at all (and you shouldn't). You'll also need to choose the right hospital—challenging in the moment, potentially impossible if you're impaired. The wrong hospital can be as lethal as waiting for an excessively delayed ambulance. In large cities with saturated EDs, this strategy often doesn't work: too many false alarms and just overall volume mean you won't skip the line.

I have direct experience managing and assessing these issues. You may not—consider getting meaningful first aid training. It helps.

The general rule: If you're confident in your department and know a nearby fire station generally has a paramedic-engine or paramedic-staffed ambulance with reasonable response times, wait for it - paramedics can do a lot for you on the way to the hospital and most critically get you to the best facility for care. You could crash your car or deteriorate en route to the point where you can't drive. But if you're fifteen to twenty minutes in and don't hear sirens (admittedly, not all departments use sirens properly), it's time to consider leaving—and how you're going to do it.

[1] Regarding Narcan: I won't engage in broader discussion about police possibly asking about circumstances requiring it—that's your business. IANAL. But many cops and almost all ambulances carry it, and the person will be alive after they administer it.

Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

#109

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This is very conspiratorial thinking. Do you really think that in a high stress situation you’re going to make the best decisions? Do you really think health workers are all concerned about legalities first? Not moving a patient unless you explicitly know how is probably right the vast majority of the time. Sometimes that’s wrong, but how are you going to get the entire public to understand what the right situation i…

> Do you really think health workers are all concerned about legalities first? 100%. Legal issues are a huge deal in healthcare. This is a snippet from a study [1] on the topic, just to get an idea of the scale (which I think most do not realize at all): --- Each year during the study period, 7.4% of all physicians had a malpractice claim, with 1.6% having a claim leading to a payment (i.e., 78% of all claims did not…

I get that in some societies there is a quick journey from something bad, to someone-to-blame. In litigious societies this means a quick trip to sue someone, anyone...

What's interesting to me is that in societies not prone to blame, or lawsuits, it can be much easier to have human interactions without being inhibited by legal fear.

Accepting that people make mistakes makes progress simpler. I recently had a medical issue which would have turned out simpler had he run a specific test earlier. I'm not the litigious sort (and I'm not in a society that is litigious) so I can now go back to him and we can discuss the mistake so he doesn't make it in the future.

I accept he's not perfect. I seek his development not his censure.

This is outside the US. No doubt inside the US fear of lawsuits would make this feedback untenable.

Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

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This is horrible. What is going on in Toronto that ambulances take 30 minutes to respond?

TL;DR chronic underfunding of the system, here's one example article: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ambulance-response-ti... The federal government shifts the responsibility to the provinces, the provinces in turn try to download as much as possible onto the cities. There's not enough money for everything on every level of the government. This also reflects on 911/dispatch systems, where there indeed might n…

Healthcare is one of the exclusive powers of the provinces, as laid out in the constitution. There are things the federal government can do, such as provide money, but provincial leaders complaining about lack of federal involvement do so in bad faith; they would certainly complain louder if the federal government overstepped their bounds. It's worth pointing out that taxation and borrowing are also constitutionally protected powers of the province.
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