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Why am I starting to believe that france is now more culturally shited towards being a new super power in this multi polar world instead of USA. Seriously , I never used to really think about france that much , but Emmanuel Macron correcting trump on live air really made me trust france more as a non US citizen.

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>Why am I starting to believe that france is now more culturally shited towards being a new super power in this multi polar world instead of USA. Because you are reading a lot of destabilisation propaganda online. I recommend you cut your news and social networks consumption a little bit. The fact that you are beginning to trust FRANCE over something that MACRON did, no less, speaks volumes.

It is completely reasonable to see France in that light given recent history of the US - a man who should be in prison for insurrection is the head of the executive.

> a man who should be in prison for insurrection is the head of the executive

I'm no France-lover (hugs from north-east of Spain), but I think this sums up things pretty well. Someone who would have been jailed in any other democracy, is now the head of government, somehow.

Given France's experience with democracy and how hard it is to keep, and America's lack of experience (as a country and democracy), makes me trust France a lot more today.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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>Why am I starting to believe that france is now more culturally shited towards being a new super power in this multi polar world instead of USA. Because you are reading a lot of destabilisation propaganda online. I recommend you cut your news and social networks consumption a little bit. The fact that you are beginning to trust FRANCE over something that MACRON did, no less, speaks volumes.

May I clarify my comment. Trust was maybe a different word , maybe hope is the correct word ? (but doesn't everybody trust hope) But I trust the people who can make me hope for a better future by actively not submitting to those people who are actively trying to reduce my hope in better future. There is absolutely no denying that what Trump has done , has absolutely made many people really hopeless. Such levels of in…

I am European. I know who Macron is. I know what he does. If one sees Macron as something other than someone who is willing to sell out his country for his masters, that seems unreasonable to me. If the hope of Europe is put on someone like Macron we know that Europe is hopeless. (I think it is)

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Your whole argument is based on neomania: progress is always good and there is no point in working on something unless it advances the state of the art.

Certainly not. I don't believe progress is always good. But subsidies should be reserved for ambitious projects that push the state of the art forward. For those projects that realistically will not get funded commercially. CERN, for instance.

Building this allows them to reduce the subsidy that is perpetual software license fees.

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It is completely reasonable to see France in that light given recent history of the US - a man who should be in prison for insurrection is the head of the executive.

> a man who should be in prison for insurrection is the head of the executive I'm no France-lover (hugs from north-east of Spain), but I think this sums up things pretty well. Someone who would have been jailed in any other democracy, is now the head of government, somehow. Given France's experience with democracy and how hard it is to keep, and America's lack of experience (as a country and democracy), makes me trus…

Being Spanish you know very well that our current president should also be in prison. So I will trust your word.

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I kind of despise that too, but in this case it kind of makes sense, the submitted project is a collaboration effort by German and French governments, so talking about various EU governments spending their time and effort on FOSS kind of makes sense, although I also disagree with most of the points parent brought up, FWIW.

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Looking at how much infrastructure needs to be spun up, I don't really see this as a good solution for personal note taking. If you use the Docker environment, you spin up 10 or more containers... including KeyClock. I get that this is intended to by hosted by a company or an organisation, but plenty of people are using Notion just as individuals. Most people would be better of with Obsidian, Bear, Notion or even App…

Honestly it's a reasonable set of dependencies:

* Postgres for permanent storage

* an OIDC identity provider so you don't have to make your own password system

* Redis for caching

* S3-compatible object storage (so you don't have to reinvent file uploads)

* The app itself

What would you rather them do? Waste time reinventing the wheel for no reason? If you have the IDP and object storage setup already figured out you can get away with just the app, postgres, and redis.

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I haven't thought about this a ton - but am I wrong that it sounds crazy and inefficient for the government to essentially compete with private industry? It feels like a colliding of worlds and a cannibalization that doesn't make sense to me. Like - if the government launched a messaging app competitive with WhatsApp and it drew users away from WhatsApp and it had better encryption ... Would that actually be better f…

No, it doesn't. First, you create the tools you need with the money your people give you. Then, you give back the tools you created to the public and/or everyone who needs them. You keep your data in your own data center, use the tools which squarely fills the needs of your workers and people, and you share its maintenance with the outside users. It's a win-win-win (country, its workers, people in the world). WWW is…

Why “licence (sic)”? It’s the correct spelling.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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This tool is part of a WIP complete suite of tools for public agents called "La suite numérique". https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr

Ah this makes sense, I was going to comment that "docs" was not really a suitable name. What is the correct full name then? lasuite docs (judging from the logo, that seem to be the brand part)? docs numerique (from the URL)?

numerique.gouv is like digital.gov. Kind of a whole ministry.

La Suite Docs is better yes.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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As far as I know, the database part is handled by Grist, listed on the suite of tools this note app is part of. https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr Of course, it's not a replacement to Notion yet.

I'm actually not talking about how they handle the database but instead the Database feature of Notion, which is more of a advanced table for the user that can be turned into a Kanban, timeline, calendar, etc. It's one of the main advantages Notion has over other note-taking tools.

Sorry, my comment was not clear. The database of La Suite is Grist. Notes is part of La Suite, a broader project. https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr
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