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Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Post by deskr »

thrance wrote: post #18
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #12

Why am I starting to believe that france is now more culturally shited towards being a new super power in this multi polar world instead of USA. Seriously , I never used to really think about france that much , but Emmanuel Macron correcting trump on live air really made me trust france more as a non US citizen.

That was funny, but as a Frenchman I don't hold too much hope. Our far right, supporting both Trump and Putin, has been gaining steam with each passing election for the past 20 years. Hopefully the circus currently taking place across the pond is enough to deter some from voting for them, come 2027?

20 years. That's step 1, Demoralization: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQPsKvG6WMI

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Post by replwoacause »

It really feels like we are in a time where EU countries are taking front and center on the world stage with cool, progressive and unified stuff, and the US is in the ally snorting crack. Saying this as a disappointed American. But yeah…really cool to see governments collaborating this way.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Post by mrweasel »

Looking at how much infrastructure needs to be spun up, I don't really see this as a good solution for personal note taking. If you use the Docker environment, you spin up 10 or more containers... including KeyClock. I get that this is intended to by hosted by a company or an organisation, but plenty of people are using Notion just as individuals.

Most people would be better of with Obsidian, Bear, Notion or even Apple Notes.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Post by coliveira »

rtpg wrote: post #34
johndhi wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't thought about this a ton - but am I wrong that it sounds crazy and inefficient for the government to essentially compete with private industry? It feels like a colliding of worlds and a cannibalization that doesn't make sense to me. Like - if the government launched a messaging app competitive with WhatsApp and it drew users away from WhatsApp and it had better encryption ... Would that actually be better f…

In a universe where the French government drops a perfect replacement for Notion and causes Notion to go out of business, this is still a net positive for society in the same way that things like Linux existing is a net positive for society. One should not focus on the economic sphere as the be all and end all. We can just have improvements be distributed to everyone sometimes! We can just do good things through coor…

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Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Post by eastbound »

maelito wrote: post #23
thrance wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was funny, but as a Frenchman I don't hold too much hope. Our far right, supporting both Trump and Putin, has been gaining steam with each passing election for the past 20 years. Hopefully the circus currently taking place across the pond is enough to deter some from voting for them, come 2027?

That's what I hope too. Trump's failure could be our far-right failure to win the 2027 elections.

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Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Post by bryanhogan »

maelito wrote: post #24
bryanhogan wrote: post #16

Does this provide database functionality like seen in Notion? I'm always disappointed by note-taking tools calling themselves a Notion alternative when they do not provide an alternative to Notion and are instead just another note-taking tool with a simple UI. If you want to be a Notion alternative provide the things that make Notion great, e.g. the database functionality. It's okay to be a simple colaborative notes…

As far as I know, the database part is handled by Grist, listed on the suite of tools this note app is part of. https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr Of course, it's not a replacement to Notion yet.

I'm actually not talking about how they handle the database but instead the Database feature of Notion, which is more of a advanced table for the user that can be turned into a Kanban, timeline, calendar, etc. It's one of the main advantages Notion has over other note-taking tools.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Post by jisnsm »

Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #12

Why am I starting to believe that france is now more culturally shited towards being a new super power in this multi polar world instead of USA. Seriously , I never used to really think about france that much , but Emmanuel Macron correcting trump on live air really made me trust france more as a non US citizen.

>Why am I starting to believe that france is now more culturally shited towards being a new super power in this multi polar world instead of USA.

Because you are reading a lot of destabilisation propaganda online. I recommend you cut your news and social networks consumption a little bit.

The fact that you are beginning to trust FRANCE over something that MACRON did, no less, speaks volumes.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Post by bryanhogan »

rtpg wrote: post #17

Having both the Notion-like UI and the real time collaboration is exciting! So much stuff has been either/or, and it made it hard for me to find a good alternative. I really appreciate how Notion is basically "what if Google Docs but you can actually organize your information". The collaborative components feel really powerful. I do kind of wish that something that was more ... Wiki-flavored would show up though. I l…

What about markdown based tools that focused on the linking part, e.g. Haptic or Logseq, is that wiki-flavored enough?

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Post by johnecheck »

mrweasel wrote: post #43

Looking at how much infrastructure needs to be spun up, I don't really see this as a good solution for personal note taking. If you use the Docker environment, you spin up 10 or more containers... including KeyClock. I get that this is intended to by hosted by a company or an organisation, but plenty of people are using Notion just as individuals. Most people would be better of with Obsidian, Bear, Notion or even App…

If we can spin up the 10 containers with a single docker compose command on a $5/month VPS, this really doesn't seem like too much for an individual.

And the best part: this is MIT licensed. If it's actually difficult to set up, build a nice web UI that makes it easy and you've got a product.

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