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Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Why am I starting to believe that france is now more culturally shited towards being a new super power in this multi polar world instead of USA.

Seriously , I never used to really think about france that much , but Emmanuel Macron correcting trump on live air really made me trust france more as a non US citizen.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Their thirst to regulate everything and everyone like they did with GDPR and the gatekeeper legislation? The EU has been a massive force of good for consumer rights As a programmer maybe we weren't meant to just be able to have a "thirst" to store "everything and everyone's" data forever. Just implement the GDPR deletion and the data export batch.

This. Most EU regulations are common sense and/or don't apply to small companies.

Have a privacy policy, don't collect unnecessary user data, encrypt data properly, don't use cookies to track people outside what is needed for your website to function, and allow your users to access and delete their data. You should have already done that before GDPR, and if you did not, you're the reason we need the law.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Does this provide database functionality like seen in Notion?

I'm always disappointed by note-taking tools calling themselves a Notion alternative when they do not provide an alternative to Notion and are instead just another note-taking tool with a simple UI.

If you want to be a Notion alternative provide the things that make Notion great, e.g. the database functionality. It's okay to be a simple colaborative notes tool, but that is not a Notion alternative.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Having both the Notion-like UI and the real time collaboration is exciting! So much stuff has been either/or, and it made it hard for me to find a good alternative.

I really appreciate how Notion is basically "what if Google Docs but you can actually organize your information". The collaborative components feel really powerful.

I do kind of wish that something that was more ... Wiki-flavored would show up though. I like confluence, it's just mega slow!

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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Why am I starting to believe that france is now more culturally shited towards being a new super power in this multi polar world instead of USA. Seriously , I never used to really think about france that much , but Emmanuel Macron correcting trump on live air really made me trust france more as a non US citizen.

That was funny, but as a Frenchman I don't hold too much hope. Our far right, supporting both Trump and Putin, has been gaining steam with each passing election for the past 20 years.

Hopefully the circus currently taking place across the pond is enough to deter some from voting for them, come 2027?

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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This is a really great project from both the French and German governments. I think state-funded open source solutions to digital platforms is a fantastic opportunity to get away from the big tech walled gardens. Of course, there is always the risk that this becomes unmaintained in the future, but the community at least can take over. But until then, it's a nice platform and a nice contribution to the community.

I haven't thought about this a ton - but am I wrong that it sounds crazy and inefficient for the government to essentially compete with private industry?

It feels like a colliding of worlds and a cannibalization that doesn't make sense to me. Like - if the government launched a messaging app competitive with WhatsApp and it drew users away from WhatsApp and it had better encryption ... Would that actually be better for the economy of this country? Something seems off about it to me.

Re: Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline

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post #6

This is a really great project from both the French and German governments. I think state-funded open source solutions to digital platforms is a fantastic opportunity to get away from the big tech walled gardens. Of course, there is always the risk that this becomes unmaintained in the future, but the community at least can take over. But until then, it's a nice platform and a nice contribution to the community.

I haven't thought about this a ton - but am I wrong that it sounds crazy and inefficient for the government to essentially compete with private industry? It feels like a colliding of worlds and a cannibalization that doesn't make sense to me. Like - if the government launched a messaging app competitive with WhatsApp and it drew users away from WhatsApp and it had better encryption ... Would that actually be better f…

> if the government launched a messaging app competitive with WhatsApp

Done, but for public workers. https://tchap.beta.gouv.fr

These tools are not yet for citizens, but for workers.

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