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Ask HN: Apple revoked developer account for 2.5 years and counting

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Re: Ask HN: Apple revoked developer account for 2.5 years and counting

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Hmm, ages ago we added a cannabis related app on Apple/iOS -- and there were loads of other (small-ish) already on there -- to help grow, or find (to buy) or to review cannabis products. Ours was for regualtory compliance -- a legal obligation for cannabis businesses. REJECTED! And after a 6mo appeal/review process -- with moving goal-posts -- we were allowed back in. YAY. And then they started getting into the appli…

We really have to get away from having only a few mega-powerful providers for such services to having smaller providers that actually compete with each other. It's insane that Apple has full control of what goes onto devices that have such a significant market share. The app store(s) should be run by different that do the app reviews and allow apps by their own guidelines. So if you want a cannabis or porn app you ca…

Content and distribution by a single entity...keeps rearing its head.

Re: Ask HN: Apple revoked developer account for 2.5 years and counting

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post #87
post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you read the thread we're commenting on, you'll see that the author removed a conspicuous warning indicator that screen recording was enabled, because their competitors didn't seem to be required to provide one. We don't know who those competitors are, but we do know that the author deliberately made this surveillance app stealthier because they believed they'd get away with it.

I removed a red dot that didn't belong on my logo and wasn't being required by Apple with any other apps.

For everyone else reading, here's the subthread:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29570450

Re: Ask HN: Apple revoked developer account for 2.5 years and counting

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post #62
post #55

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> The original version of the app I submitted for notarization had the Truple logo, with a red dot/circle to indicate recording and make it more suspicious. The redesign I did dropped the red dot/circle because competitors weren't being forced to do anything like that. Doesn't this seem kind of damning? Like you admit the recording dot is suspicious, so you remove it because why? Are you targeting anyone that isn't f…

Put on the hat of the end user. Keep in mind the end user is a child, or someone struggling with an online addiction/behavior they want to quit. They welcome the app, but those issues are somewhat personal. There's a balancing act I'm trying to walk here, of being reasonably suspicious while also not publishing for everyone who peeks over their shoulder that they're using an app like this. Again, if the red dot matte…

> Put on the hat of the end user. Keep in mind the end user is a child, or someone struggling with an online addiction/behavior they want to quit. They welcome the app, but those issues are somewhat personal.

This sure as hell reads to me like you’re trying to hide the fact that you’re recording vulnerable user’s screens from them.

Re: Ask HN: Apple revoked developer account for 2.5 years and counting

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post #92
post #58

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I appreciate this. Thank you. I'm sorry you were down voted at my defense. > Your app sounds like it offers real value and is actually innovating. Apple is destroying your business at their discretion, for seemingly no reason. People really get fired up about apps like this, but few people can say they've built software that has saved marriages and helped parents to raise their children. I honestly can and am honored…

They weren't downvoted for your defense; they were downvoted for belittling everyone else on the thread, which is straightforwardly against the HN guidelines, which you can read via the link at the bottom of the page. I see a lot of people here who are critical of the app you're trying to sell but also doing their best to be helpful. If you're looking for a cheering section, you're probably not going to find it here;…

Malware definition: software that is specifically designed to disrupt, damage, or gain unauthorized access to a computer system.

Truple doesn't do that.

Re: Ask HN: Apple revoked developer account for 2.5 years and counting

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post #92
post #58

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I appreciate this. Thank you. I'm sorry you were down voted at my defense. > Your app sounds like it offers real value and is actually innovating. Apple is destroying your business at their discretion, for seemingly no reason. People really get fired up about apps like this, but few people can say they've built software that has saved marriages and helped parents to raise their children. I honestly can and am honored…

They weren't downvoted for your defense; they were downvoted for belittling everyone else on the thread, which is straightforwardly against the HN guidelines, which you can read via the link at the bottom of the page. I see a lot of people here who are critical of the app you're trying to sell but also doing their best to be helpful. If you're looking for a cheering section, you're probably not going to find it here;…

Also, this is not really a forum full of “Apple Fanboys”. People are regularly and vocally critical of Apple’s decisions here.

Arguably defending Apple’s App Store policies is the controversial take on this forum.

Re: Ask HN: Apple revoked developer account for 2.5 years and counting

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post #92

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They weren't downvoted for your defense; they were downvoted for belittling everyone else on the thread, which is straightforwardly against the HN guidelines, which you can read via the link at the bottom of the page. I see a lot of people here who are critical of the app you're trying to sell but also doing their best to be helpful. If you're looking for a cheering section, you're probably not going to find it here;…

Malware definition: software that is specifically designed to disrupt, damage, or gain unauthorized access to a computer system. Truple doesn't do that.

It would have been perfectly reasonable for the now-flagkilled parent comment to have made that argument about the definition of malware without calling everyone on the thread an "Apple fanboy". They chose not to. See what happens?

Re: Ask HN: Apple revoked developer account for 2.5 years and counting

#108
post #37

This is the main reason why I am not interested in being an app developer. Your business is in the hands of someone who can cut you off and get away with not even giving you the time of day. Not worth the risk. (That being said: I'm not sure I would have approved an app like yours since it is designed to invade privacy)

The business in this case is from a religious extremist and this kind of software is very frequently used without the user's consent.

Re: Ask HN: Apple revoked developer account for 2.5 years and counting

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post #76
post #72

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I've been hesitant to do so. Look at the top several results from https://www.google.com/search?q=porn+accountability+app for apps that don't even try to advertise as parental focused apps. If you want direct links, send me an email (you can find it in my profile).

For instance, "Covenant Eye" (which: holy shit, how creepy is this!) always blurs screenshots. Yours apparently does opt-in blurring. I'm interested in the detective project of figuring out what red lines your app may have crossed, just because it's interesting. But cards on the table: none of these apps should be allowed on the app store. Maybe Apple just hasn't gotten around to shutting down "Covenant Eye" yet.

Should I, or should I not be allowed to run whatever applications I want on my phone?

Should I, or should I not be forbidden from filtering the internet for myself? Meanwhile, the content I see is filtered by FB, Twitter, etc. Why should their desires rule mine on my device?

Should I, or should I not be forbidden from seeking help accomplishing my own goals for online use, in particular accountability for giving up various addictions? Meanwhile, FB and Twitter are allowed to know what I view, but I'm not allowed to let anybody else know what I view. Why should they be able to hold me accountable, while I'm not allowed to seek accountability from anybody else?

Re: Ask HN: Apple revoked developer account for 2.5 years and counting

#110
post #59

I don't understand why people are trying to guess the reason why Apple is doing this. I'm not a fan of this concept, but I wouldn't label it as malware to be used by abusive spouses and parents. If you read the FAQs on the website, it clearly states: Can I hide the Truple notification icon? No. Truple is voluntary use software, and is not intended (or allowed) to be used as spyware. All of our applications require a…

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