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Tahoe's hiring crisis is unraveling small businesses during its busiest season

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Re: Tahoe's hiring crisis is unraveling small businesses during its busiest season

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I know this article is about Tahoe and paints a rather bleak picture...but this is nationwide. I traveled most of the east coast over the past few months, and every single city's service sectors are begging for employees. I've never seen so many fastfood places closed. And not like, boarded up, but appearing operational but having zero employees. And most weren't high cost of living areas...

We're in the middle of a gigantic reallocation of the economy after Covid. It's going to take a while to sort out who works where in the new equilibrium.

Exactly. Government has been backstopping/de-risking asset ownership since the Great Recession and massively increased that program in March 2020. At the same time, they started to de-risk the asset consumer class with eviction moratoriums and significantly increased unemployment benefits.

Seems to me one of those two classes will need to be inconvenienced if we don't want inflation to spiral out of control, because otherwise the asset owners will continue to buy more assets with cheap money that will push prices up, while asset consumers will continue to require higher and higher salaries to afford to pay the increasing rents to the asset owners.

Asset owners should be the ones taking the hit since they have been backstopped for far longer and are in a much better financial position to deal with it. But the asset owner class is also the one running the country and its tough to imagine them doing something against their short-term self interest.

Gonna be interesting to see what kind of equilibrium shakes out. I hope this plane can be landed without crashing...

Re: Tahoe's hiring crisis is unraveling small businesses during its busiest season

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I find it bizarre that the article doesn't mention immigration and how brutal ICE policies are discouraging seasonal workers from coming. I know someone who manages a restaurant in California. All the cooks are of Mexican descent. Obviously they are taking jobs no one else wants.

Re: Tahoe's hiring crisis is unraveling small businesses during its busiest season

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post #24

“ Those who beat the real estate curve and bought property for their employees to live in before home prices skyrocketed are faring much better on the hiring front than their comrades.” So we are returning to factory towns? It seems the only solution is the cap rental prices, which traditionally doesn’t work. Maybe the city should be buying at the housing and providing it?

The solution is to not interfere in the market.

How is that possible, its surrounded by a national forrest necessarily creating a regulatory interference.

Re: Tahoe's hiring crisis is unraveling small businesses during its busiest season

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>>If you need to hold hunger and homelessness over people’s heads in order to make them work, maybe your system is morally bankrupt? You mean the human condition? Life has always been this way and since we're not a post-scarcity society yet I don't see how any workable system would not be morally bankrupt by this standard.

> we're not a post-scarcity society yet How can we be sure that we aren't? Or rather, how will we ever be able to tell whether we are living in a post-scarcity society, when artificial scarcity is imposed by those with political power? We don't have true scarcity in housing. What we have is artificial constraints on building being imposed by the state. We also don't have scarcity in basic foodstuffs. There's plenty o…

We absolutely have an artificial housing supply shortage, that is induced by homeowners loving 15%+ year over year housing market increases and not wanting the undesirables to move in or be able to afford housing in the first place.

It would be so much more simple to say you can just buy a lot for maybe $25000 and put one of these garden sheds in and live on it https://www.costco.com/stonecroft-12'-x-10'-wood-storage-she.... There you go, full housing setup for under $30000, but it would be a very low standard of living, but much nicer than sleeping in a car or on the street. In many populated counties it is illegal to sleep on your own land if you don't have an inspected house or utility hookups.

Re: Tahoe's hiring crisis is unraveling small businesses during its busiest season

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> “We literally do not have enough cooks to operate and after months of continuous hiring, training, begging, pleading and getting creative, we have a tiny, loyal, incredible team of individuals at their breaking point and in desperate need of help,” the owners wrote.

I'm genuinely not being facetious: why don't they pay more? Isn't that the solution to a labor shortage in a free market?

Re: Tahoe's hiring crisis is unraveling small businesses during its busiest season

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> we're not a post-scarcity society yet How can we be sure that we aren't? Or rather, how will we ever be able to tell whether we are living in a post-scarcity society, when artificial scarcity is imposed by those with political power? We don't have true scarcity in housing. What we have is artificial constraints on building being imposed by the state. We also don't have scarcity in basic foodstuffs. There's plenty o…

> Capitalist market economies are usually very efficient at allocating such resources Sure, as long as "efficient" means "most aligns with the desires of capital".

Capitalism is extremely efficient at aligning resources for profit. Whether or not that’s what you’d want as a society is another matter.

Personally I’d argue that capitalism is great for non-necessary consumer goods, and disastrous for necessities. My TV is cheaper (inflation adjusted) and measurably superior to what was on sale half a century ago. Unfortunately my house is massively more expensive than it was half a century ago, and unlike a TV I will die sooner if I don’t have some sort of dwelling to live in.

If we’re going to keep capitalism, and the growing sentiment against it here makes me question even that, we need to put stronger safety rails around it.

Re: Tahoe's hiring crisis is unraveling small businesses during its busiest season

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post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> we're not a post-scarcity society yet How can we be sure that we aren't? Or rather, how will we ever be able to tell whether we are living in a post-scarcity society, when artificial scarcity is imposed by those with political power? We don't have true scarcity in housing. What we have is artificial constraints on building being imposed by the state. We also don't have scarcity in basic foodstuffs. There's plenty o…

We absolutely have an artificial housing supply shortage, that is induced by homeowners loving 15%+ year over year housing market increases and not wanting the undesirables to move in or be able to afford housing in the first place. It would be so much more simple to say you can just buy a lot for maybe $25000 and put one of these garden sheds in and live on it https://www.costco.com/stonecroft-12'-x-10'-wood-storage…

In many municipalities it’s illegal to live in a house below a certain size, even if it’s up to code in every other way. This is why most “tiny homes” are on trailers, putting them on wheels makes them technically not homes.

There are also often limits on adding new dwelling space to your land. I would need a permit to add a detached studio to my back yard if it crosses the threshold of being a “dwelling unit”. Usually a bathroom is enough to trigger this regulation.

Re: Tahoe's hiring crisis is unraveling small businesses during its busiest season

#109
post #3

This is becoming a problem in many areas, and I can't imagine that the push for remote work is going to help the situation any. Unless you are living with parents, or with multiple roommates, the housing market in these cities will price you out. We have this same scenario taking place in the area I live, and NIMBY/zoning laws prevent affordable housing from being developed. I've been to town hall meetings where peop…

NIMBYS are the most short-sighted people ever. And somehow every boomer I know became a NIMBY in the last decade. At least in France they don’t listen to them, unlike in the Bay Area.

Can’t wait until this explodes and we can have sane housing policies again.

Re: Tahoe's hiring crisis is unraveling small businesses during its busiest season

#110

It's not going to change until the UI benefits and eviction moratoriums end. What person is going to go and work all day for less money?? Seriously, if you don't work right now you are getting UI, Food Stamps, and you don't have to pay rent. It literally doesn't not make economic sense to work right now for many people.

> It's not going to change until the UI benefits and eviction moratoriums end. What person is going to go and work all day for less money?? Or, employers could just offer more money. > Seriously, if you don't work right now you are getting UI, Food Stamps, and you don't have to pay rent. Note that there is not a rent moratorium, just an eviction moratorium, so unless you plan is to both get evicted and deal with the…

In California the state government may help with back rent: https://www.fool.com/the-ascent/personal-finance/articles/ca...
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