> Ritualize No thanks. This is the first thing I started to dislike about being raised Catholic, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
The World Needs a Secular Community Revolution
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#22What we "need" is for people to worship Jesus Christ and get their butts to church.
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#23What we "need" is for people to worship Jesus Christ and get their butts to church.
Well, we're gonna be downvoted to hacker hell, but I agree. "it was good for my dear old daddy / and my dear old mommy too...i don't need nothing new"
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#24> Ritualize No thanks. This is the first thing I started to dislike about being raised Catholic, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
[0] http://lesswrong.com/lw/8x5/ritual_report_nyc_less_wrong_sol...
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#25The core of these organizations was small business owners, a group which once ran their small towns, and no longer does. Some of those organizations existed to push back against big business, especially railroads, back when railroads had a monopoly on shipments to small towns. That function evaporated as trucks took over.
Rotary has a moral code, the Rotary Four-Way Test:
Is it the TRUTH?
Is it FAIR to all concerned?
Will it build GOODWILL and BETTER FRIENDSHIPS?
Will it be BENEFICIAL to all concerned?
That's a morality for business people, created by business people. It seems archaic today. It was once taken quite seriously.Re: The World Needs a Secular Community Revolution
#26What we "need" is for people to worship Jesus Christ and get their butts to church.
This need to be worshipped is what I found to be the most bizarre characteristic of deities. Seriously, why would someone who can create space, time, universe and everything care the slightest bit about whether or not a bunch of Homo sapiens perform all these weird acts that worshipping entails? Too needy.
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#27What we "need" is for people to worship Jesus Christ and get their butts to church.
This need to be worshipped is what I found to be the most bizarre characteristic of deities. Seriously, why would someone who can create space, time, universe and everything care the slightest bit about whether or not a bunch of Homo sapiens perform all these weird acts that worshipping entails? Too needy.
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#28What we "need" is for people to worship Jesus Christ and get their butts to church.
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#29The wife and I have been talking about this at great length as of late. We are not wired to believe in the supernatural, but I am having a hard time coming up with reasons why that would prevent us from finding a church to go to. It does limit which churches might be accepting of us, as I will not be handling snakes or washing anyone's feet. But as churches get more and more devoid of fundamentalism (a survival maneuver), they become more and more like the thing being talked about in the fine article. Maybe it'll all meet in the middle one day.
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#30I wonder if an "organized secularism" would only copy some the problems found in organized religion. Do people become less religious only because of a rejection of the supernatural, or for other reasons as well? I think some people become less religious for two additional reasons as well: "shared values" and "rituals." A set of shared values is nice until it fails to change in response to changes in the values of ind…
Sociologically, people mostly become less religious when they feel that they control their own fate, and feel no need to ask for divine intervention. Hence why societies grow less religious as they grow rich and egalitarian, while highly unequal and/or poor societies have a tendency towards greater levels of religiosity.