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Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture

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Re: Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture

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post #273

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I'm a little surprised by the negative reaction. You people don't derive pleasure from working... from the process of building things, from molding reality? I damn sure do. But then again... I'm an American.

Do you live to work, or do you work to live?

What's the difference?

Work. Bees don't do it.

Re: Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture

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It's too expensive. So's SF. In regards of programming jobs, sometimes it's like living 40 years ago. You program with punch cards? 40 years ago was 1975. Racism is annoying, but normal here. And you must be proud of being Swiss. You say that like it's a bad thing, but it's a big reason I like Switzerland. Life's too short to be ashamed of who you are. Switzerland is tiny. Finding (and keeping) friends here can be ha…

> You say that like it's a bad thing, but it's a big reason I like Switzerland. Life's too short to be ashamed of who you are. Really man? So people like you do exist in 2015?

More and more with each passing year, thanks to the overuse of the term and the shifting of its definition. I don't hate people of other races. That used to be good enough. Now, I have to ignore the race of the men who raped my sister. I have to ignore the race of the men who beat my uncle until he slipped into a coma. I can't point out that black on white violent crime is several orders of magnitude larger than white on black violent crime.

And since I can't do any of that without being called a racist anyway, there's very little reason for me not to embrace the term with which I was branded.

Re: Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture

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post #394

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It's too expensive. So's SF. In regards of programming jobs, sometimes it's like living 40 years ago. You program with punch cards? 40 years ago was 1975. Racism is annoying, but normal here. And you must be proud of being Swiss. You say that like it's a bad thing, but it's a big reason I like Switzerland. Life's too short to be ashamed of who you are. Switzerland is tiny. Finding (and keeping) friends here can be ha…

... most people do consider racism a bad thing.

Citation needed.

Re: Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture

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> that patriarcal culture Funny. Do you know anything at all about Switzerland? (hint: it's a very patriarchal society)

Do you know anything at all about Europe? (hint: Europe ­— particularly the germanic part — is far less patriarchal than north africa and the middle east).

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Re: Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture

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post #286

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I am actually a freelancer, my example was not of my current situation. But while I was employed it was very hard (I didn't manage to get it despite trying for a while) to get a job as a developer for less than full time regardless of salary. Anyway that wasn't the point, my point was that stating your particular preference doesn't really add much to the conversation.

Don't give up - I heard of one in Boulder last year, and looking at their site, I see it's still listed.

I am quite happy with my freelancing but thanks :)

Re: Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture

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post #371

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I never understood the ripoff that the "lunch hour" was. So... you are going to keep me away from other stuff, but I'm not paid for it? Also, you might not be hungry. If you live on a low carb high fat diet, you can easily go 12 hours or more without feeling the need to eat something. And some companies will even go to the length of banning sites like youtube. "Try to kill an hour... but we'll remove anything that co…

Because this concept stems from a time when people still performed physical work and had to eat at least 3 full meals spread over the day to stay healthy (enough). Reading the comments here makes me realise how firmly embedded the "time not spent working is time wasted" attitude is.

> Reading the comments here makes me realise how firmly embedded the "time not spent working is time wasted" attitude is.

Time spent not working is NOT time wasted. Time spent away from what I love, while not being paid IS.

Re: Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture

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post #239

i pay 45% tax in the usa. time to move ;)

How do you figure? Top tax bracket is 39.6% when taxable income is over $413,201. On the first $9225 of that you pay 10% just like everyone else.

From 1944 to 1963 the top rate was not less than 91% From 1932 to 1981 the top rate was not less than 63%

Re: Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture

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post #295

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Any smart boss with decision making power should instantly give workers an additional 2 weeks off for a 10% pay cut. (Assuming the workers work more than 20 weeks a year and their duties can be taken up by someone else). It's pure profit at that point. That aside... there is always a choice. Don't ever think otherwise. You don't have to stay there. You don't have to drive a nice car. Always a choice. It's just a matt…

It's not profit, it's saving money. But also less production. You get my point.

It's only less production if you assume that productivity remains constant or decreases if you give the employee that extra time off.

Re: Living in Switzerland ruined me for America and its lousy work culture

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post #397
post #384

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Well, it's largely because you're trolling. It worked, too.

I don't think trolling. I'm just saying I like being busy. I don't want hour and half lunches at the cafe. I don't want 6 weeks a year off. I like working, I like making stuff and I like making money. I like resting too. I rest especially well when I'm tired from work. It's a good feeling.

"You guys are lazy. I like work... because I'm American" is a pretty garden-variety troll.
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