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Landlords are trying not to rent to startups in San Francisco

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Post by NotSammyHagar »

sitkack wrote: post #53
stephengillie wrote: post #42

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Staff as a Service? Another source of this might be Labor Ready - warm bodies to fill an office space. And for those with higher skill, maybe we could tap some Hollywood extras?

Yes. Right before the first dotbomb I went on a tour of LoudEye/Encoding.com which had lots of Hollywood clients. The place was in a gorgeous antique building, wrought iron railings, full rack sized silicon graphics multiprocessors, and all of the front desk, office staff were Beautiful People (tm) and very busy and serious. It looked like a set for what a futuristic tech company would dream of. We need that as the f…

Don't companies need all those beautiful people (tm) so that the engineers have someone to date, rather than boringly dating each other?

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Post by NotSammyHagar »

dylanjermiah wrote: post #280
urda wrote: post #216

Here's a crazy thought: Maybe it's time to consider another location for startups. San Francisco is reaching it's limits, and let's be honest technology can really launch from anywhere. Let's get some other cities moving, San Francisco has enough.

Has already been tried countless times, and all have failed so far.

Seattle hasn't failed, instead it is booming. There's almost too many startups, too many job offers. I don't want anyone else to move here, we have too much traffic, home prices rising almost too fast (I say that even though I own a home :-)).

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Post by sitkack »

NotSammyHagar wrote: post #301
sitkack wrote: post #53

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Yes. Right before the first dotbomb I went on a tour of LoudEye/Encoding.com which had lots of Hollywood clients. The place was in a gorgeous antique building, wrought iron railings, full rack sized silicon graphics multiprocessors, and all of the front desk, office staff were Beautiful People (tm) and very busy and serious. It looked like a set for what a futuristic tech company would dream of. We need that as the f…

Don't companies need all those beautiful people (tm) so that the engineers have someone to date, rather than boringly dating each other?

These beautiful people definitely weren't dating anyone at the company.

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Post by dylanjermiah »

NotSammyHagar wrote: post #302
dylanjermiah wrote: post #280

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Has already been tried countless times, and all have failed so far.

Seattle hasn't failed, instead it is booming. There's almost too many startups, too many job offers. I don't want anyone else to move here, we have too much traffic, home prices rising almost too fast (I say that even though I own a home :-)).

Agree on Seattle. I think you can't 'create' a SV. It happens bottom up as opposed to top down. For example, what if Leland Stanford Jr didn't die prematurely at age 15 in 1884 -- and his parents didn't build a University in his honour? Chances are SV would not be SV.

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Post by czbond »

davidw wrote: post #251
mooreds wrote: post #217

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I loved Bend when I visited a decade ago. It has a lot of the benefits of Boulder plus an ocean not too far away (but further from an airport and major metropolitan area). Didn't seem like much business was happening when I visited, though (other than tourism). Is there a tech scene now?

> Is there a tech scene now? Yeah - it's small, but seems to be taking off. http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/223997 I had some doubts about moving back to the US from Italy, but so far we're really happy in Bend. We'll see how the winter goes.

How was the tech environment in the portion of Italy you were in?

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Post by akgerber »

rconti wrote: post #111
nostrademons wrote: post #27

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A lot of this may come from the belief that the economy is only being propped up by the easy money policies of the Fed, and that the Fed is going to start tightening rapidly in the fall. There's a sense that once the tightening starts, everyone will run for the exits at once, and we'll have another 2008 situation but worse.

Not to pile on too much, but the Fed has been amazingly slow to raise rates and only shows signs of doing the most timid increase. It's the cheap money that's fueling the mad rush, yes, but it's a blunt policy tool being used to help along parts of the country that are really still struggling. Until Detroit and Stockton and Pittsburgh are doing well again, aggressive policy is going to continue to fuel massive growth…

Pittsburgh's actually been doing very well over the last 10 years— the recession barely happened there. And, of course, the stakes are much lower when you can buy a nice house in the city or a nice school district for $150,000.

Detroit and Stockton, less so.

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Post by jtfairbank »

beatpanda wrote: post #294
jtfairbank wrote: post #105

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I live in West Oakland and the favorite game is still "fireworks or gunshots". Its a great place to live if you're in your 20s, but I wouldn't want to move my family here. Maybe up by Berkeley is better?

Huh, that's funny, because West Oakland is mostly families and they are fighting for their lives to stay in their neighborhood due to pressure from people like you. P.S. if you're scared, move.

Not scared! Most of the families I've talked to around my neighborhood want to move out to a better / safer place. Could just be my specific block though.

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Post by akgerber »

aliston wrote: post #167
s73v3r wrote: post #139

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Huge tech community, almost perfect weather (it's not San Diego, but it's close), fairly liberal politics, diverse culture (means tons of interesting and fun cultural activities, and lots of interesting places to eat that you don't get somewhere that isn't a larger city). You may not agree with or value those things, but a lot of tech people do.

San Francisco weather is not even remotely close to San Diego... It's significantly colder, foggier and windier, particularly in the summer. The high/low in June/July/August is comparable to December/January/February in San Diego.

Which is great, because San Diego is too hot & sunny.
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