It's too bad that microsoft continues to be villainized when companies like Facebook and Google have social networks and browsers respectively that have similar practices that users are even more unaware of when they use them. Computers these days have become thin clients for browsers (especially for the typical consumer). Except for the occasional open of Word or Excel, you're in your web browser browsing the web an…
So we should stop criticizing Microsoft, because Facebook, Apple and Google are not criticized enough? That's some pre-school logic.
I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10
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Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10
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> But like I can see your side of the argument, you have to be able to see that some other people want personalization and learning and all that. Pandora and Apple Music are both heavily tailored that way. Google Now on your phone knows everything you do. Netflix can find videos for you to watch based on what you've watched before. Amazon will recommend purchases to you based on what you like. Hell, half the people o…
It's not just about advertising. By looking at customer data in aggregate you can learn more about behaviour patterns and support the things your customers might be interested in doing. Buying products is one of the things you might be interested in doing. That said, this whole thing gives me the creeps and I'm glad I'm no longer a Microsoftie.
That could be done locally, without sharing the private data. The local computing agent can then look up in the public (like the pool of those who deliberately published content for all to see) for information that may be of interest to the user. That would have been a moral solution to please everyone. What we see happening now is a nightmare!
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https://techjourney.net/download-official-windows-10-iso-via... "Note that the file hashes (CRC32, SHA1, MDA and etc.) for Windows 10 ISO images created by Media Creation Tool are unique as time stamps and other factors are different for each computers."
So basically they're saying there are no file hashes for you to check, because the only way to download an ISO is through the Media Creation Tool. I don't know why they don't just let you download the ISO directly without some pointless middle-man downloader tool.
Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10
#514Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But like I can see your side of the argument, you have to be able to see that some other people want personalization and learning and all that. Pandora and Apple Music are both heavily tailored that way. Google Now on your phone knows everything you do. Netflix can find videos for you to watch based on what you've watched before. Amazon will recommend purchases to you based on what you like. Hell, half the people o…
It's not just about advertising. By looking at customer data in aggregate you can learn more about behaviour patterns and support the things your customers might be interested in doing. Buying products is one of the things you might be interested in doing. That said, this whole thing gives me the creeps and I'm glad I'm no longer a Microsoftie.
Those improvements could be done with much less intruding anyway (be it for the sake of it or because johnny hacker is going to release those data someday).
Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10
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>"Would you like to store a backup for your drive encryption password on Microsoft OneDrive? If you choose not to do so, and you forget your password, all of your data will be lost. [Yes/No]" You know when most people care about whether or not they can recover their data? It's not when someone asks them a Yes/No question, it's when they can't recover their data. And responding with "Well, remember 2 years ago when yo…
Which is a great reason why we should be seeking better authentication systems than memorizing random passwords. Or providing people with another means of backup; for instance, provide options to both "back up via print" and "back up to USB device", in both cases providing something you could then store in a secure location.
I was going to say that the most likely thing folk have done is try to back up their key on the drive they encrypt - but last time I tried that due to not being on a network, I think the Bitlocker wizard refused to let me.
Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10
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I like my software knowing what I like and what I'm interested in. It makes my life easier, which is what computers were invented for. Philosophical question: is it really your life, if your software may be subtly persuading you in a different direction than what you would've taken if it hadn't been making the suggestions to influence you? There is no doubt it will make things easier for you if all you do is effectiv…
How's that different from listening to any other human you interact with? Is it somehow worse because it's a computer rather than a human? That's the kind of bigotry that gets you robot uprisings.
Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10
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Absolutely no one wanted it. No one asked for it. We were spun a load of marketing disguised as listening and attention. This turned out to be exactly what Microsoft wanted which was another aggressive move against customers both business and consumer. Despite all this the noise and confusion and dubious love for the products is shining out of the arses of every non technical news source. What did we expect? I've lef…
> Absolutely no one wanted it. No one asked for it. How so? Billions of people choose to pay for services/software with their privacy these days. Microsoft isn't to blame for that. If anything they were really late to the party
Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10
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"Windows is now essentially a personalized, cloud-based operating system with the primary interface as a personal assistant." Who wanted that for desktop computers or laptops? This is not going to fly with business customers. Microsoft has already bombed twice in the business space, with Windows Vista and Windows 8. This looks like another bomb. Windows 7 is still pretty good, and it will probably be the main Microso…
Who wanted that for desktop computers or laptops? This is not going to fly with business customers. ...nor with some private customers. Microsoft seems to be overlooking that not all nations are so happy about "the cloud" as the average American seems to be. Germany for one, where I currently live, is much more sceptical of sharing personal data -- potentially motivated by some of its 20th century history. But all th…
Onedrive on Windows 10 explicitly asked me "what folders do you want to sync?" when it first popped up.
Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10
#519"Send typing and inking data to Microsoft to improve the recognition and suggestion platform" "Typing data" sounds like keylogging. If it's what it sounds like, that's really emphatically not okay; that would include all passwords and the contents of all emails sent. Would someone with actual knowledge care to chime in and say what data is actually sent? If it turns out that Windows 10 really is sending keystrokes to…
IE and other browsers configured to use Bing have done this for a while. I discovered it while packet sniffing for something else and seeing HTTP requests for the things I was typing in the Address Bar. I can't say I'm surprised, though saddened, to see this elsewhere in the OS.
Re: I noticed some disturbing privacy defaults in Windows 10
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So we should stop criticizing Microsoft, because Facebook, Apple and Google are not criticized enough? That's some pre-school logic.
Microsoft has watched Apple get away with this stuff for years and make billions off of it. Apple doesn't even offer an opt-out on most of it. Microsoft is at a massive competitive disadvantage by not leveraging the knowledge it has access to and offering those features that require this type of data collection. Microsoft is a publicly-held company, beholden to its shareholders and is thereby required to compete in t…