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Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by kozukumi »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #184
kozukumi wrote: post #149

In case there are people wondering I am using Windows 10 Pro x64 and did the following - Downloaded ISO using the media creation tool at [1] then did an upgrade from 8.1 to 10 which complete just fine. I then booted from the USB drive I just made, did a diskpart clean on the only drive in the machine then did a clean install. When prompted for a product key I pressed skip then when asked again during the out-of-box e…

It may not be hardware hash-based. OEM Windows reads licensing info from the BIOS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BIOS#SLIC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Locked_Pre-installation

My machine does not have a product key in the BIOS, it is older than that :)

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by Aldo_MX »

hyperbovine wrote: post #229
acqq wrote: post #6

Note that the upgrade will remove your Windows built-in DVD player. The right to play DVDs must be paid for every computer. You paid it when you bought the Windows 7 or 8 that you'll maybe upgrade to 10. Now the upgrade to Windows 10 takes that feature away from you. They apparently (the twitter message isn't actually the company statement) plan to return it "sometime in the future" and "if it might be free or if it…

As long as they left in pinball

You can always extract it from NT4, just run this in the i386 folder:

  EXPAND.exe PINBALL.IN_ C:\PINBALL.INF
Take the list of files from there, and expand them, ex.

  EXPAND.exe PINBALL.EX_ C:\PINBALL\PINBALL.EXE
  EXPAND.exe PINBALL.HL_ C:\PINBALL\PINBALL.HLP
  REM etc.
If you don't have an ISO at hand or if you prefer to avoid extracting/expanding the files: https://archive.org/details/pinball.7z

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by WCityMike »

Aleman360 wrote: post #224

I work on the Start menu. It's just a UWP XAML app with Models and ViewModels written in C++/Cx, as are most of the new Shell features and built-in apps--although some of the newer ones, like Maps and Xbox, are in XAML/C#/.Net Native. Even the UI frame of Edge is in XAML, and the new Office UWP apps are too. I encourage everyone here to give UWP apps a shot; we dogfooded the dev platform to ensure it was stable and f…

I'd be curious as to your reaction to Ars Technica's review, in which they complained about what they perceived as a "debilitating" Start Menu issue: "This database is (inexplicably) maintained by a system service running as the super-privileged SYSTEM identity. And at the time of writing, this database has the oh-so convenient feature of being limited to around 500 entries. [...] The All apps view didn't show all my programs. This would be tolerable if that's all that happened [...] Except that searching breaks, too. For search-to-start apps, Windows appears to use the same database. [...] if you reduce the number of apps to below 500 or so, it doesn't fix anything. There's no easy way to make it re-read all the short cuts."

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by nsgi »

currysausage wrote: post #239
ak217 wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My experience has been the opposite. To me Windows 10 is the continuation of the 8/8.1 trainwreck, with the ridiculous Metro skins, a broken start menu, the half-assed fragmentation of the UIs into Metro/non-Metro, ham-handed app store/online services integrations, and various new features that do not work. I'll be going back to Windows 7, in which at least the UI works. And really, the only thing keeping me attached…

> a broken start menu I love Windows 7, but do you honestly think the Windows 7 start menu is not broken? I believe we just got used to it over time. In Windows 7, I can either have an unstructured list of "pinned" programs, or I can manually categorize the real ("All programs") start menu. Option 1 doesn't scale beyond ~15 items (I have 22 pinned programs and it's a mess), and option 2 breaks whenever a program upda…

Why don't you just search for what you're looking for?

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by psykovsky »

Aleman360 wrote: post #257
anonymfus wrote: post #252

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you get feedback about localisation? Russian version shipped with the word "Создать" (literally "Create") as the translation for the "New" mark in the list of all applications, despite many heavily upvoted posts in the feedback app.

Through the feedback app. After enough upvotes, it gets automatically routed to the feature team for triage.

Triage being the keyword, right? There is no promise it will be implemented just because users want it, or am I wrong and triage means something else for you?

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by AndrewDucker »

Aleman360 wrote: post #224

I work on the Start menu. It's just a UWP XAML app with Models and ViewModels written in C++/Cx, as are most of the new Shell features and built-in apps--although some of the newer ones, like Maps and Xbox, are in XAML/C#/.Net Native. Even the UI frame of Edge is in XAML, and the new Office UWP apps are too. I encourage everyone here to give UWP apps a shot; we dogfooded the dev platform to ensure it was stable and f…

So, will you be the one fixing this bug? http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insider/forum/insider_win...

:->

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by wfunction »

deciplex wrote: post #233
wfunction wrote: post #14

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> Reminder that Microsoft installed adware on Windows 7/8 machines to encourage users to upgrade to Windows 10. Because Linux distributions like Ubuntu never ever encourage you to upgrade your system to the newest and shiniest version, right?

They stop doing it when I tell them to knock it off, and they don't creep back in and do it again after a few months, either. The update responsible for the notification, even after I removed it and hid the update within WU , found its way back after MS released an 'update' to the package with the totally unintended, honest! side effect of unhiding the package and reinstalling it.

> They stop doing it when I tell them to knock it off

Oh, I wish what you said was true. It's funny because they didn't do that when I was on an older version of Ubuntu (11? 12? I forget). It just kept popping up and telling me to update no matter what I did. Stuff like this: http://askubuntu.com/q/218755

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Post by vetinari »

throwawaykf05 wrote: post #174
ak217 wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My experience has been the opposite. To me Windows 10 is the continuation of the 8/8.1 trainwreck, with the ridiculous Metro skins, a broken start menu, the half-assed fragmentation of the UIs into Metro/non-Metro, ham-handed app store/online services integrations, and various new features that do not work. I'll be going back to Windows 7, in which at least the UI works. And really, the only thing keeping me attached…

I liked Metro on Windows 8, despite it's rough edges. Just needed to get used to it, that's all. I could get to any part of the OS in a few key presses. If it's a tile on the desktop itself, arrow keys, enter, done. If not, win-key + type first few letters, arrow keys, enter, done. I cannot understand how people like the tiny start button and menus and right-clicks and multi-level navigation in the old Windows UI. I…

That tiny start buttons and menus are not that tiny, if you have a monitor in front of you. They are tiny only if your real dpi and the dpi that the apps expect do not match. And on the contrary, the controls became huge, wasting ton of space in the Metro/Modern versions.

Metro tiles are OK for simple apps, but you are not going to make CAD or NLE with that. For these apps, you need those tiny controls, ability to cram lot of them into small space and ability to adjust the design to the target intent. Metro tiles won't help you with that.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by cm2187 »

ak217 wrote: post #93
skrebbel wrote: post #48

I've been on the "insider preview" for a few weeks now, and I must say that I think Windows 10 is an absolutely amazing OS. Definitely the best Windows I've ever used. Also the best desktop OS I've ever used, but I hope you'll believe me about the "best Windows" even if you can't imagine why a developer would possible want to run something other than $YOUR_FAVOURITE_UNIX. If Windows 10 is as well-received as I expect…

My experience has been the opposite. To me Windows 10 is the continuation of the 8/8.1 trainwreck, with the ridiculous Metro skins, a broken start menu, the half-assed fragmentation of the UIs into Metro/non-Metro, ham-handed app store/online services integrations, and various new features that do not work. I'll be going back to Windows 7, in which at least the UI works. And really, the only thing keeping me attached…

I would add to that list that it is a mixed bag of various versions of UI. When you go to the control panel you are welcomed by some big grey square. In sub menus you will find some windows 7 style white control panels. And if you keep digging deeper the old grey non-resizable dialog box are never far.

The only consistency with the other versions of windows is that the hierarchy in the settings is all changed again to make sure it will take everyone time to find its way.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by vetinari »

cwyers wrote: post #204
foiboitoi wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh as developers you better just get used to supporting DirectX 11, because a lot of people still don't want to be brute forced into these situations.

It'll start as "better on DirectX 12," there'll be a Crysisesque "DirectX 12 only" game that is the prettiest thing anyone has ever seen, everyone will move and the holdouts can keep playing old games off Steam and GOG if they don't like it.

That was the plan with DX10 and we have seen, how that one went.

The thing is, the majority of gamers will update based on the available cash, and so gamedevs will be targeting the expected hw base at the time of release.

So it really depends, whether you except the gamers to go on spending spree (nvidia and intel would certainly love that), or not.

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