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Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by skrebbel »

thescrewdriver wrote: post #80
skrebbel wrote: post #48

I've been on the "insider preview" for a few weeks now, and I must say that I think Windows 10 is an absolutely amazing OS. Definitely the best Windows I've ever used. Also the best desktop OS I've ever used, but I hope you'll believe me about the "best Windows" even if you can't imagine why a developer would possible want to run something other than $YOUR_FAVOURITE_UNIX. If Windows 10 is as well-received as I expect…

> Windows 10 is an absolutely amazing OS > the best Windows I've ever used > the best desktop OS I've ever used I'm not doubting your enthusiasm, but could you elaborate on which features you believe make it superior to every other desktop OS you've ever used?

Prefer not. Most of it is a mix of taste (I like touch) and "stuff I'm used to" (I'm used to Windows). Whenever people discuss OS features on HN it becomes some sort of flamewarish "your taste sucks" fets. It's like vim vs emacs vs IntelliJ.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by bitwize »

gbl08ma wrote: post #160
rg_ wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why can't I just play my media (which I paid for) on my hardware (which I paid for) in "normal" software (which... I thought I paid for). Instead I have to have the Xbox brand shoved in my face at every opportunity?

I don't find it very different from having the "Windows" brand shoved in my face with Windows Media Player, Windows Media Center, Windows Internet Explorer (formerly) etc. or the "Microsoft" brand shoved in my face with Microsoft Office, Microsoft Internet Explorer (formerly)... the OS is made by Microsoft, I expect to see mentions to Microsoft's properties and trademarks.

It would be like that if you were running these apps on an Xbox. But when you are running a PC, it doesn't make sense to brand them with Xbox branding unless they are services specifically related to the Xbox (e.g., Xbox Live account management or something). Otherwise it sounds like a weak attempt at cross-branding.

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Post by LocalPCGuy »

deciplex wrote: post #3

Reminder that Microsoft installed adware on Windows 7/8 machines to encourage users to upgrade to Windows 10. Even if you hid the update from Windows Update, they un-hid it and reinstalled at least once that I know of. Don't reward this behavior by buying Windows 10. Or at least delay the purchase as long as possible.

It isn't AdWare...sheesh. It's a notification from a vendor you "trust" (I say trust because if you are using their OS, there is some measure of trust).

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Post by Aleman360 »

I work on the Start menu. It's just a UWP XAML app with Models and ViewModels written in C++/Cx, as are most of the new Shell features and built-in apps--although some of the newer ones, like Maps and Xbox, are in XAML/C#/.Net Native. Even the UI frame of Edge is in XAML, and the new Office UWP apps are too. I encourage everyone here to give UWP apps a shot; we dogfooded the dev platform to ensure it was stable and fast, and XAML really is a pleasure to use. It's come a long way since WPF.

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Post by jwr »

toyg wrote: post #139
alkonaut wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's what the license terms say for normal retail licenses of the consumer versions, yes. This is pretty understandable for machines run concurrently. If you have two VMs running 24/7 it makes sense to just consider them "machines" exactly as if they were physical. The question is what happens if you have two VMs with identical hardware where you only ever have one active? Microsofts licensing probably doesn't cons…

That's technically correct, but they could still shout at you when carrying out a review, because you cannot technically guarantee you're running only one at the time.

Is it really the customer's responsibility to technically guarantee that the licensing cannot be breached?

I can't technically guarantee that my system hasn't been duplicated (say, by the NSA), but that isn't my responsibility. I'm just not supposed to run two copies simultaneously.

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Post by deciplex »

batou wrote: post #82
0xffffabcd wrote: post #79

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The other option is to remove kb3035583

Still appears on mine if you remove that and block it. Lots of people have reported that.

You also have to hide the update to prevent WU from reinstalling it for you, but actually not even that will permanently disable it.

This is because Microsoft will release "updates" to that package, with the totally unintended side effect of unhiding and reinstalling the update. So even if you uninstall it, and hide the update from WU, it will still find a way onto your system.

So yeah, like I said and despite the downvotes, it's fucking adware. Bordering on malware.

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Post by hyperbovine »

acqq wrote: post #6

Note that the upgrade will remove your Windows built-in DVD player. The right to play DVDs must be paid for every computer. You paid it when you bought the Windows 7 or 8 that you'll maybe upgrade to 10. Now the upgrade to Windows 10 takes that feature away from you. They apparently (the twitter message isn't actually the company statement) plan to return it "sometime in the future" and "if it might be free or if it…

As long as they left in pinball

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Post by Someone1234 »

foiboitoi wrote: post #170
louhike wrote: post #77

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Yes but you do not have to upgrade to Windows 10 and they made it pretty clear they removed these softwares (it warned me when they proposed the update). This is unfortunate but I don't think Microsoft has been evil here.

"you do not have to upgrade to Windows 10" Everyone has to stop using that as an excuse. It doesn't even make sense & it's myopic. Obsolescence is built into Windows. If you want to continue being safe using Windows you NEED to upgrade. You can choose not to upgrade, but it's at your detriment. It's a choice until it's not.

If it was 2020 you might have a point, since that's when they'll end-of-life Windows 7. But it is 2015, you can use Windows 7 with Media Center and your DVD codec for the next five years.

Honestly I get the strong sense we wouldn't even be having this discussion if Windows 10 was NOT free i.e. if it costs $100. Since then people would simply not feel compelled to upgrade, instead it is free for a limited period, so people feel compelled and are now complaining about being "forced" to.

The reality is you can use Windows 7 until 2020. Just go ahead and do that then.

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