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Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile

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I'm a former Reader user and now use Feedly. What do you use that's better than Feedly? I settled on it since it was "good enough" but I haven't invested the time to explore other options.

NewsBlur is probably the best of the Reader replacements. http://newsblur.com/ https://twitter.com/newsblur

Not for me. There are so many different ways people use feed readers. Google reader was amazing in how many different workflows it supported.

Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile

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That's funny, because I've been thinking, "They already know so much already anyway." Probably how they were hoping/expecting people would act.

I'm an Android user, they can already see my contacts, thus they can already deduce who I know. As someone on the internet, they can already crawl any publicly available data about me, including blog posts, tweets, forum posts, mailing list emails, and social network metadata like marital status, gender, etc. Google+, in theory, doesn't really tell them they don't already know, or can't easily figure out already, so…

You could just use keep your contacts locally. You don't have to sync to Google.

Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile

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> It is a gmail account. You're completely incorrect. You see how this actually is confusing! A 'Google Account' is just a login that allows you to use a Google product. You can sign up with your own email address if you like. Go and try it: https://accounts.google.com/SignUpWithoutGmail

> > It is a gmail account. > You're completely incorrect. You see how this actually is confusing! This is historically inaccurate. I have never signed up for a Google Account and yet I have one. Before Google+ and Google Apps existed as concepts, people had GMail accounts. Then along came other Google Apps, and GMail accounts were upgraded to Google Accounts which could do more than just GMail. Fast forward a few yea…

Hmm, not sure exactly what you're saying but if it's that Gmail accounts came first and then the ability to have accounts without Gmail then you're incorrect.

Google had products that required accounts way before Gmail came along. Adwords started in 2000 and I think Google Groups started in 2001. I'm pretty sure I personally remember having an account for Google Groups before Gmail even existed, but I could be wrong.

I'm also certain I had a blogger account with Google back in 2003 sometime and Gmail didn't come along until 2004 for an April Fools day joke I think.

Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile

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I find it incredibly amusing and also very frustrating that all the top comments to this article are simply G+ re-shares that add absolutely no value to the comments section and simply more garbage the reader has to sift through in order to view legit comments. >>"Google has been doing some rethinking" thanks I already read that >>"#googleplusupdate #youtube " thank you that was valuable >>[another summary of the art…

The reply thing really gets me - reddit and HN threads are really easy to follow. Why is that so hard to do?

I find them really hard to follow. Threaded commenting isn't so fun when you can't collapse a single comment's thread. Instead, if I want to know who is being replied to, I need to place my finger on the screen and scroll up, seeing on who's comment it lands. That tells me which comment the current one is replying to.

4chan (well, imagboards in general) have a nice system where you can reply to multiple people at once by referring to the post id. Top-level comments are usually represented by referring to no comment, or by referring to the OP's post id. I find this much, much easier to follow.

Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile

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Feedly probably isn't claiming those numbers with any basis in reality. In particular, many people made Feedly accounts in a hurry out of panic when the shutdown was announced. Having used both, I highly doubt users of Reader are still regular users of Feedly.

I'm a former Reader user and now use Feedly. What do you use that's better than Feedly? I settled on it since it was "good enough" but I haven't invested the time to explore other options.

theoldreader

I couldn't stand feedlys interface, and theoldreader is good enough.

Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile

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I find it incredibly amusing and also very frustrating that all the top comments to this article are simply G+ re-shares that add absolutely no value to the comments section and simply more garbage the reader has to sift through in order to view legit comments. >>"Google has been doing some rethinking" thanks I already read that >>"#googleplusupdate #youtube " thank you that was valuable >>[another summary of the art…

They also lack translate button.

Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile

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Maybe that's part of the reason I can never figure out what's going on when I follow someone's link to a conversation on Twitter.

This is the bane of my existence when it comes to Twitter. Why are you even allowed to have 2 names anyway? The real one(the one in your url,.e.g. twitter.com/ ) and that $WHATEVER_STRING_YOU_WANT username? Idea, someone make an extension/greasemonkey that replaces all the free-form usernames with the actual account name so I can follow conversations without having to deal with all the mental bookkeeping of 2 names p…

Some of the reader apps will let you choose which one gets displayed, or displayed most prominently.

Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile

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I find it incredibly amusing and also very frustrating that all the top comments to this article are simply G+ re-shares that add absolutely no value to the comments section and simply more garbage the reader has to sift through in order to view legit comments. >>"Google has been doing some rethinking" thanks I already read that >>"#googleplusupdate #youtube " thank you that was valuable >>[another summary of the art…

Since google knows everything, they could easily hide comments from people that speak a different "dialect" than you do. For example, they could show only comments from people that also frequently visit HN.

Or rank them more highly

Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile

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Facebook is a single-purpose social network. It stands alone. Plus is a social platform providing a glue-layer between all the social aspects of Google's services. When you're providing a platform, you can't afford to be opinionated.

Facebook supports messaging, event calendars, photo and videos, blogs (Pages), business listings, geo checkins, a social app platform, and a web identity service.... How is that different in kind from what Google offers to consumers? Google also offers binary blob data storage/sync, and a phone OS. Is that key?

It's not really to do with what the products are in a narrow technical sense, as to do with what the social context of their use is. After all, that's what makes a social network.

In particular, when people came to gmail in the first place, they were using it as an email service. When they came to youtube, it was as the world's largest collection of videos. They did not want these conflated.

You could list all those items for Yahoo and for AOL as well. But Youtube is distinctive in offering a huge collection of searchable videos. You name it, it's there, until it gets taken down by contentID or made unavailable in your country. Can you even search for videos on Facebook?

Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile

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Though not the end of G+, hopefully it will be the end of G+ as we know it. From day one G+ should have simply been a social mesh between the many (very) popular Google properties like YouTube, Play, Maps, etc. Making it a standalone application was their fatal mistake, and here's hoping Bradley can lead them towards becoming a social utility instead of a social platform.

social mesh between the many (very) popular Google properties like YouTube, Play, Maps

Genuine question: what do the videos I view, the apps I install on my phone, and the locations I search for have in common? And what's "social" about any of those?

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