Many entrepreneurs should find this outcome encouraging. No, Google can't just steal your idea even with the full working product before them. Ironically, android was the best heist job from Apple, but it's success is arguably due to market factors, not product competition (they filled the market void Apple refused to sell to, and when directly competing they seem to still lose, like in China).
Using Google without a Google+ profile
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Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile
#42To me, the UI of Google+ feels so bulky and slow. Everything seems to be out of place. It's a mystery to me, whom they are targeting. Does anybody like their UI? If so, what device are you using? What do you think of FB vs G+? I mainly use Firefox on the Desktop. And Facebook is somewhat ok. G+ feels completely out of sync.
I liked their mobile app UI. It was fluid and snazzy. The only issue was content and users.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Nymwars is why Google+ lost, but they'll never admit it.
Facebook has, and has long had, a real name policy. If you want a reason why Facebook succeeded and G+ didn't, you'll need something that's actually different between them.
I have an `official' facebook account with my real names and everyone I know or wanted my facebook. I never post or look at it, everything is locked down.
And I have an `active' facebook account with a fake name and people I really want to `follow' or people I let in.
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#44It's incredible how lightly they have thrown away the Google+ Account For Everything stance given how merciless they were in imposing it at the time. The wails from YouTube in particular have only just died down. Kudos to them, but a lot of pain could have been avoided if they did all this listening back then, instead of waiting until their thing was clearly dead.
> It's incredible how lightly they have thrown away the Google+ Account For Everything stance given how merciless they were in imposing it at the time.
Good example of Strong opinions, Weakly-held.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Facebook has, and has long had, a real name policy. If you want a reason why Facebook succeeded and G+ didn't, you'll need something that's actually different between them.
Less than half of my friends use their (full)real name at facebook
Are you from Europe, out of curiosity? Anecdotally that seems to be way more common there than in the U.S., for some reason.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
The only social network from Google that had a chance... before they killed it off.
Google Reader never had many users. Feedly claims to have captured 80% of the Reader userbase when it shut down, and they have 15 million users. That is incredibly small by the standards of social networks, much smaller than even the pessimistic active-user estimates for G+.
Feedly probably isn't claiming those numbers with any basis in reality. In particular, many people made Feedly accounts in a hurry out of panic when the shutdown was announced. Having used both, I highly doubt users of Reader are still regular users of Feedly.
Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile
#47I find it incredibly amusing and also very frustrating that all the top comments to this article are simply G+ re-shares that add absolutely no value to the comments section and simply more garbage the reader has to sift through in order to view legit comments.
>>"Google has been doing some rethinking" thanks I already read that
>>"#googleplusupdate #youtube " thank you that was valuable
>>[another summary of the article I just read]
This is also one of my major complaints with youtube. I find it hard enough just to follow a single youtube comment thread because:
1. Everyone appears to be speaking a dialect of english that is understandable seemingly to everyone but myself - some sort of strange mixture of 90's IRC speak with some klingon thrown in.
2. People are replying to users but the reply username doesn't match the display username.
John Smith: That was a great video
> Jane Smith: +Bubba I agree
me: "who the heck is Jane talking to?"
3. Then finally there're all of those G+ reshares:
John Smith: Look at this video: http://www.youtube.com/asdf83289
> John Smith's friend: I enjoyed that video
Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile
#48It's incredible how lightly they have thrown away the Google+ Account For Everything stance given how merciless they were in imposing it at the time. The wails from YouTube in particular have only just died down. Kudos to them, but a lot of pain could have been avoided if they did all this listening back then, instead of waiting until their thing was clearly dead.
> It's incredible how lightly they have thrown away the Google+ Account For Everything stance given how merciless they were in imposing it at the time. Good example of Strong opinions, Weakly-held.
No, you misunderstand that. Strong opinions, Weakly held refers to dropping your misguided opinion when the first evidence against it appears. Google held their strong opinion until their product was just about dead.
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Facebook has, and has long had, a real name policy. If you want a reason why Facebook succeeded and G+ didn't, you'll need something that's actually different between them.
G+ actively enforced this policy in a way that made people angry. When FB does similar things [1][2] people are similarly upset, but when they were going through early adoption they didn't force this. [1] http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/07/04/3676529/truth-be... [2] https://www.facebook.com/chris.cox/posts/10101301777354543
They did, however, seed the community of initial users with real names by literally cherrypicking individuals at colleges from face books. So Facebook was always a place where it felt like one should be using one's real name, not "+X+ babyjoe23 +X+"
Keep in mind, Google already had experience with two social networks they owned. The Real Names policy probably didn't fall from the sky as an idea without merit; they might have had reason to believe that without enforcing real-world names, the resulting social network wouldn't get Facebook traction.
Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile
#50A surprisingly large number of FOSS developers (though mostly Linux developers in particular) use G+ and post interesting status updates on it. That's the extent to which I care about it.
It always felt a lot better than facebook and twitter except few outside of FOSS, certain photographers etc used it.