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Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile

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Sounds like a good opportunity for a browser that manages your various identities across multiple sites.

Chrome has had this feature for years. You can create separate Profiles for YouTube, Gmail, etc. I do this with Facebook to minimize exposure to the Like Button virus.

How do you access this feature?

Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile

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Feedly probably isn't claiming those numbers with any basis in reality. In particular, many people made Feedly accounts in a hurry out of panic when the shutdown was announced. Having used both, I highly doubt users of Reader are still regular users of Feedly.

I'm a former Reader user and now use Feedly. What do you use that's better than Feedly? I settled on it since it was "good enough" but I haven't invested the time to explore other options.

I host my own TT-RSS instance: https://tt-rss.org/gitlab/fox/tt-rss/wikis/home

Not as fancy as some of the commercial offerings, but I never need to worry about it getting killed off.

Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile

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> we’re well underway putting location sharing into Hangouts

You can already share location on Hangouts, but it is deeply broken. Or do they mean "bring back Latitude"?

Not long ago I had experience where I had to meet online friend, we were on the same route, just different directions. It all went like sharing our current location every 5 minutes (with increasing frequency towards meeting point) and still managed to miss each other, because "you said your car was grey, but its silver!". Live location sharing is necessary for many workflows and there are tons of apps for that with disputable trustworthiness.

Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile

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Well, this is a right step.

But I put question mark on the startegist of Google products they initiate step and move backward again and again.

Google is only alive due to Google search engine it self. It's my opinion.

Otherwise the way Google introduce things and all the time they are facing negative feedback on their new products.

Buzz, Orkut, Google Glass (not that much penetrate in market)

Hope Google will get some awesome minds now.

Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile

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Why did they need real names anyway? If they build a profile based on your browsing and social graph to show you ads, what does it matter who you actually are, so long as you have those interests? Like a node in a graph being distinguished only by the arcs connecting it.

I think the use of real names was identified as one of the reasons for Facebook's success[1], so they just copied that. [1] http://techcrunch.com/2008/12/17/myspace-quietly-begins-enco...

Yeah they forgot that people only used real names on Facebook because it was extremely private (only people in your university could see you). Google+ on the other hand is full of public actions - Youtube comments, app reviews, etc.

Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile

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Chrome has had this feature for years. You can create separate Profiles for YouTube, Gmail, etc. I do this with Facebook to minimize exposure to the Like Button virus.

How do you access this feature?

The 'People' section in Settings. There's also a button with your profile name on it at the top right in newer versions of Chrome.

Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile

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I'm an Android user, they can already see my contacts, thus they can already deduce who I know. As someone on the internet, they can already crawl any publicly available data about me, including blog posts, tweets, forum posts, mailing list emails, and social network metadata like marital status, gender, etc. Google+, in theory, doesn't really tell them they don't already know, or can't easily figure out already, so…

Exactly my reasoning. Also an Android user. They're the most prolific internet crawlers anyway. The Pandora's box of my personal information is blown wide open (to them), so I'm just trying to contain the blast. They also have my search history, which is a better diary than I could ever purposefully write.

> so I'm just trying to contain the blast

Information becomes more powerful when you connect all the dots together. Hence, it is better to divide information among services, so they all know a bit, but cannot decipher the "big picture".

Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile

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I find it incredibly amusing and also very frustrating that all the top comments to this article are simply G+ re-shares that add absolutely no value to the comments section and simply more garbage the reader has to sift through in order to view legit comments. >>"Google has been doing some rethinking" thanks I already read that >>"#googleplusupdate #youtube " thank you that was valuable >>[another summary of the art…

Since google knows everything, they could easily hide comments from people that speak a different "dialect" than you do. For example, they could show only comments from people that also frequently visit HN.

Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile

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So these two [1][2] popular videos aren't actual any more, huh. Isn't Google one of the companies that keep talking about how they listen to the users? Does anyone at all believe them, or Microsoft for that matter, that they do such a thing?

[1]https://youtu.be/ymkA1N3oFwg

[2]https://youtu.be/LTq8TrA3hb4

Re: Using Google without a Google+ profile

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G+ lost because Google forced G+ to every Google account. Post something to Youtube, you silently created a G+ post. Upload something to Picasa, you silently published the photo to your G+ newsfeed, etc. - quite toxic. And have they learned from their Google Buzz (G+ predecessor)? Nope, same behavior. I have somewhat similar feeling about the upcoming Win10 launch, and in near future a lot normal user will learn the…

G+ wanted to be a rendezvous for all social/sharing activities on Google, and it turned out that many users didn't like it. Would G+ have fared better if it didn't force G+ onto every Google property? Maybe? It's easy to do armchair analysis, but hindsight is 20/20.

If nobody had the foresight, they would have all been fine with joining Google and they wouldn't have failed. Google didn't have the foresight.
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