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Re: Plasma Mobile

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Post by madez » Sat, Jul 25, 2015, 1:23 PM UTC

arianvanp wrote: post #21

Awesome project. I pitty the negativity here because I always think it's good to hack around with new ideas and techologies, as it will catch many bugs and give possibilities to fix them. Speaking of Wayland, is it stable enough yet? I heard Gnome now fully supports it, which is neat. I wish XMonad would be ported to wayland though.

I also think it is an interesting project, even if it doesn’t find any adoption. It’s good for finding bugs in the software stack they use, and this projects existence means users have one more option. I'm curious (and a little bit excited to see) where it will bring us.

Re: Plasma Mobile

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Post by davelondon » Sat, Jul 25, 2015, 1:23 PM UTC

I'm sure the remarkable similarity to the www.spotify.com/uk homepage is just a lucky coincidence: http://imgur.com/zPfdFX8

Re: Plasma Mobile

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Post by shadeslayer » Sat, Jul 25, 2015, 1:32 PM UTC

RivieraKid wrote: post #15

emilsedgh wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe contribute to it then? :) Disclaimer: I contribute to kde.

I've been actually thinking about creating a new desktop environment (or a whole desktop platform ala Android if I had more time). Because there's a lot of space for improvement and innovation on (not only) Linux desktop. But this is not the case for mobile IMHO. As for contributing to KDE, it's not as fun as starting a new project, things move slowly, you have limited options of what you can do and I just generally…

> ... things move slowly ...

Why do you think things move slowly? KDE releases Frameworks 5 every month, and Plasma 5 every 3 months, that's pretty fast in my opinion.

Re: Plasma Mobile

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Post by PuffinBlue » Sat, Jul 25, 2015, 1:36 PM UTC

davelondon wrote: post #42

I'm sure the remarkable similarity to the www.spotify.com/uk homepage is just a lucky coincidence: http://imgur.com/zPfdFX8

Huh, even the same green - #2ebd59

Re: Plasma Mobile

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Post by digdigdag » Sat, Jul 25, 2015, 1:38 PM UTC

davelondon wrote: post #42

I'm sure the remarkable similarity to the www.spotify.com/uk homepage is just a lucky coincidence: http://imgur.com/zPfdFX8

My guess is it's using a pre-built Wordpress template.

Re: Plasma Mobile

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Post by macspoofing » Sat, Jul 25, 2015, 1:40 PM UTC

tete wrote: post #22

RivieraKid wrote: post #8

I've lost all hope in the KDE project, they simply don't understand UI / UX design.

What defines UI / UX design? I am not a KDE user (currently). Well I use it once in a while, but compared to Windows, Mac OS (old and new), Android and iOS, which I all have used the only two things I've seen working well, as in being easy to understand and still efficient to use are KDE and XFCE. Oh and Squeak/Pharo. Both Android and iOS are horrible when it comes to easy of use and know what you are doing in my opi…

>Both Android and iOS are horrible when it comes to easy of use and know what you are doing in my opinion.

I'm going to disagree with you there. I've seen toddlers use the iPad. My 60 year old aunt who never 'got' Windows (even simple things like managing application windows, or figuring out where files go after being downloaded), figured out iPad in about a day.

Re: Plasma Mobile

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Post by soapdog » Sat, Jul 25, 2015, 1:43 PM UTC

sho_hn wrote: post #35

jbk wrote: post #2

So, there is not much information on the website yet, but this is basically a full stack for mobiles, based on Wayland and Kwin for the UI and Ofono for the phone part. The reference implementation is based on Ubuntu Touch, and use libhybris to get hw support. However, it's different from UT, by the fact that it's not using Mir, but Wayland directly through Kwin. It seems to run Ubuntu Touch applications, X11 applica…

Right, here's the stack as a quick recap: Kubuntu with systemd + Android GPU driver via libhybris + kwin as Wayland display server and compositor (with a hwcomposer backend for the renderer) + plasmashell + phone shell package. Ofono for GSM. Regular Linux desktop bits for everything else. This different from e.g. Firefox OS which relies on Android's SurfaceFlinger as display server, or Ubuntu Phone which uses their…

Great project, can`t wait to play with it.

Just a little nitpick, as far as I know Firefox OS is not using SurfaceFlinger but talking direct to the GL layer.

Re: Plasma Mobile

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Post by PuffinBlue » Sat, Jul 25, 2015, 1:46 PM UTC

digdigdag wrote: post #45

davelondon wrote: post #42

I'm sure the remarkable similarity to the www.spotify.com/uk homepage is just a lucky coincidence: http://imgur.com/zPfdFX8

My guess is it's using a pre-built Wordpress template.

It's using a webflow[0] template but with a seemingly customised template that whoever made it called 'plasma'.

[0] http://webflow.com/

Re: Plasma Mobile

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Post by DanitaBaires » Sat, Jul 25, 2015, 1:48 PM UTC

wz1000 wrote: post #32

veeti wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You must have some very low standards for "looking great". Like they say, this is a prototype and it shows. The design is all over the place. The one thing that sticks out the most is that there is no sense of scale at all. Everything is either ridiculously huge or tiny. For example, look at the compact status bar: really small text and icons. Then look at the navigation icons on the bottom of the screen, the dialer…

Everything you mention is relatively easy to fix. Submit a patch if you don't like it. That's the beauty of open source :)

Design cannot really be done by comitee.

Re: Plasma Mobile

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Post by seba_dos1 » Sat, Jul 25, 2015, 1:50 PM UTC

honest_joe wrote: post #10

Looks great. Would I want to use it ? Nope In order to succeed it needs to come in a polished product form. But still gl and keep hacking.

What does "to succeed" mean? As long as it will be usable for me and some other people, not abandoned and keep progressing, it will succeed. It doesn't need to take over the market.