And this is why a democracy needs independent checks and balances at every level.
Chicago fires investigator who found cops at fault in shootings
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Re: Chicago fires investigator who found cops at fault in shootings
#12Gonna give you guys a few quick blurbs. First, a chief of police was interviewed on CBS News a while back. He said there are thousands upon thousands of police interactions with citizens every day but all anyone ever hears about is the one bad one that happened one time. Second, and this might sound off-topic but I hope you get my point. I was helping a guy move, a few months back, along with one of his friends who's…
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Re: Chicago fires investigator who found cops at fault in shootings
#13This is why all officer involved shootings should be investigated and prosecuted(if necessary) by people with no skin in the game for any outcome.
Re: Chicago fires investigator who found cops at fault in shootings
#14Gonna give you guys a few quick blurbs. First, a chief of police was interviewed on CBS News a while back. He said there are thousands upon thousands of police interactions with citizens every day but all anyone ever hears about is the one bad one that happened one time. Second, and this might sound off-topic but I hope you get my point. I was helping a guy move, a few months back, along with one of his friends who's…
We tend not to hear about the thousands of airline flights a day that don't crash, either. That doesn't mean for a second that we should just shrug and resign ourselves plane crashes.
And even that analogy is flawed, because it's unambiguous that at least some of these "bad cop" interactions involve deliberate malfeasance on the part of the cop. When was the last time the pilot intentionally crashed their plane?
It turns out, some cops are bad actors. They're the ones we should be hearing about. And we should also be hearing about it when their departments pull shit like TFA: firing the investigator who says their shoots were bad, for not altering his findings to suit their narrative.
Re: Chicago fires investigator who found cops at fault in shootings
#15Gonna give you guys a few quick blurbs. First, a chief of police was interviewed on CBS News a while back. He said there are thousands upon thousands of police interactions with citizens every day but all anyone ever hears about is the one bad one that happened one time. Second, and this might sound off-topic but I hope you get my point. I was helping a guy move, a few months back, along with one of his friends who's…
I've got cops in my Family... and any cop will tell you that bad cops exist.
Only with proper independent review panels can justice be served against a bad cop. I'm not necessarily "anti-cop", but I know the importance of a robust cop investigation unit.
Re: Chicago fires investigator who found cops at fault in shootings
#16Even though liberals will deny this, the main issue here is that police unions are completely out of control and have this kind of power. The Independent Police Review Authority is full of union stooges, ex-cops, etc and is designed to protect cops. The real question is when will we start having the political will to question public sector unions? They seem to only make city services more expensive, more corrupt, and…
>"Even though liberals will deny this..."
This blanket assumption is probably why you're being down-voted. The easiest way to avoid this is by supporting your statements with as many facts as possible.
A simple google search proved that this is not at all the case, for example, and that Republicans show much stronger support of police unions.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/12/the-gop-and...
This selective support among Republicans suggests that you're addressing the wrong crowd.
Re: Chicago fires investigator who found cops at fault in shootings
#17Even though liberals will deny this, the main issue here is that police unions are completely out of control and have this kind of power. The Independent Police Review Authority is full of union stooges, ex-cops, etc and is designed to protect cops. The real question is when will we start having the political will to question public sector unions? They seem to only make city services more expensive, more corrupt, and…
Police unions are a special kind of thuggish killer-protection union, I would not lump them in with the rest of public sector unions.
Re: Chicago fires investigator who found cops at fault in shootings
#18Gonna give you guys a few quick blurbs. First, a chief of police was interviewed on CBS News a while back. He said there are thousands upon thousands of police interactions with citizens every day but all anyone ever hears about is the one bad one that happened one time. Second, and this might sound off-topic but I hope you get my point. I was helping a guy move, a few months back, along with one of his friends who's…
We tend not to hear about the thousands of airline flights a day that don't crash, either. That doesn't mean for a second that we should just shrug and resign ourselves plane crashes. And even that analogy is flawed, because it's unambiguous that at least some of these "bad cop" interactions involve deliberate malfeasance on the part of the cop . When was the last time the pilot intentionally crashed their plane? It…
>When was the last time the pilot intentionally crashed their plane?
Germanwings not long ago.
Re: Chicago fires investigator who found cops at fault in shootings
#19Even though liberals will deny this, the main issue here is that police unions are completely out of control and have this kind of power. The Independent Police Review Authority is full of union stooges, ex-cops, etc and is designed to protect cops. The real question is when will we start having the political will to question public sector unions? They seem to only make city services more expensive, more corrupt, and…
> "Even though liberals will deny this..." This blanket assumption is probably why you're being down-voted. The easiest way to avoid this is by supporting your statements with as many facts as possible. A simple google search proved that this is not at all the case, for example, and that Republicans show much stronger support of police unions. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/12/the-gop-and... This selec…
It will be very hard to pin the problems with Chicago on Republicans.
Re: Chicago fires investigator who found cops at fault in shootings
#20Even though liberals will deny this, the main issue here is that police unions are completely out of control and have this kind of power. The Independent Police Review Authority is full of union stooges, ex-cops, etc and is designed to protect cops. The real question is when will we start having the political will to question public sector unions? They seem to only make city services more expensive, more corrupt, and…
> "Even though liberals will deny this..." This blanket assumption is probably why you're being down-voted. The easiest way to avoid this is by supporting your statements with as many facts as possible. A simple google search proved that this is not at all the case, for example, and that Republicans show much stronger support of police unions. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/12/the-gop-and... This selec…
This is Chicago, we really have no republicans in power.
The downvotes are just knee-jerk stupidity because the MSM doesn't report much on union abuse and unions largely get a free pass in the US for political reasons. Democrats won't go after them as they more or less pay for Democratic campaigns.