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Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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Post by cheald »

Jugurtha wrote: post #57

As much as I admire and respect the United States and its people, I can't be but amazed by the reactions to sex stories. I have the impression that you can get away with anything, except sex. You can get away with incompetence, dilapidating tax payers' money, corruption, invasion of privacy, aggression on sovereign countries, authorizing torture, brutality, injustice. Big deal. Few care, and if they do, there are no…

In our leaders, cheating on one's spouse is problematic (and plays well in the media) because it is an extremely clear-cut example of being willing to violate one's most sacred vows for one's personal pleasure or convenience - not a quality that engenders much confidence in said leader's ability to honor the vows they made to serve the interests of their country and her citizens.

Many of the other things you listed - corruption, incompetence, invasion of privacy, aggression on other countries, torture, brutality, injustice - are all potentially explainable as at least well-intentioned or misunderstood or justified by the ends. Violation of marriage vows, on the other hand, doesn't have a lot of wiggle room.

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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Post by StavrosK »

cheald wrote: post #44
Asbostos wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cheating can cause a lot of emotional harm. Imagine a site for people to commit minor sexual assaults and publish the pictures of the victims. That would be easier to think of as deserving of being hacked though neither is causing tangible physical harm. The article also gives the reason that they apparently falsely sold customers a "delete your information" fee without actually deleting it. That kind of fraud can on…

Your example is somewhat fallacious in that sexual assault is, in fact, criminal, and running a platform that encourages and rewards it is potentially an accessory to that crime. Hacking it may in fact be more ethically (though not necessarily legally) justifiable if its demise in fact contributes to the reduction of violence against the site's users' victims. Cheating, morally reprehensible as it may be, is not in t…

Adultery is also criminal in many parts of the world, including the US.

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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Post by nailer »

cheald wrote: post #61
Jugurtha wrote: post #57

As much as I admire and respect the United States and its people, I can't be but amazed by the reactions to sex stories. I have the impression that you can get away with anything, except sex. You can get away with incompetence, dilapidating tax payers' money, corruption, invasion of privacy, aggression on sovereign countries, authorizing torture, brutality, injustice. Big deal. Few care, and if they do, there are no…

In our leaders, cheating on one's spouse is problematic (and plays well in the media) because it is an extremely clear-cut example of being willing to violate one's most sacred vows for one's personal pleasure or convenience - not a quality that engenders much confidence in said leader's ability to honor the vows they made to serve the interests of their country and her citizens. Many of the other things you listed -…

Relationships are complex things. I'd consider the nuances of someone cheating that had a a dead bedroom, terminally ill partner, green card marriage, bisexuality, open marriage, or violent partner before a soldier doing, say, these things: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-r...

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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Post by cm2187 »

Gigablah wrote: post #54
cm2187 wrote: post #46

Another nail in the coffin of the confidence in the IT industry. It starts to look more like a porcupine than a coffin now.

Your purview of the "IT industry" is pretty narrow.

Well, does it matter to the end user whether it is a flash or OpenSSL vulnerability, a sql injection vulnerability, a weak password or simply a careless employee who didn't check the URL before entering a password?

It is a long chain in which every single link has shown to be weak so far.

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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Post by juliangregorian »

Jugurtha wrote: post #60
juliangregorian wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What enlightened realm do you live in, pray?

The 21st century.

Your 21st century is completely ignorant of the human condition? I get the distinct impression the reason you are so coyly dancing around the subject of your geospatial location is because you know it would be a trivial matter to look up just as much juicy tabloid trash from your own homeland.

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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Post by [deleted] »

straik wrote: post #47
ocfx wrote: post #6

Good. I hope the company goes bankrupt. People murder other people and kill themselves over shit like this.

I can´t see anything good in taking the company down. People are cheating, they always did. It's not illegal, they made a personal decision. Why is it a bad thing to run a platform for these people?

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Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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Post by ulrikrasmussen »

I see a few comments sympathizing with the vigilantes behind this, implying that the exposed users had it coming. I am a bit sickened by this attitude, for several reasons. First of all, adultery is not illegal in the countries where most users of AshleyMadison are presumably residing, and even if it were, people could have used fake names which could implicate someone not actually associated with the site. This could destroy lives!

Second, performing your own vigilante punishment by outing people who you feel are not living up to your own personal moral standards has no place in a developed society. It is not your right to destroy a family, not to mention one where every member is a stranger to you, by outing one of its members as a cheater and at the same time putting all other members of the family on public display.

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