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Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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The possibilities are endless, I imagine someone will make this data easily searchable and journalists will be digging through to found anyone of notoriety that was dumb enough to sign up with their own names and credit cards etc. This hack could create a ton of news stories, including record divorce rates. I'm curious as to how the ashley madison admins are killing these links? DMCA takedowns? What's the mechanism f…

There's another case to be considered here, too - people who have used the site, got caught/came clean, did the work to fix it and have rescued their marriages (or were doing it with the blessing of their spouse), and now are at risk for their name being published for viewing by their coworkers, neighbors, members of their church, etc as a "cheater", "adulterer", etc, even after they've ostensibly paid their moral de…

Also not to forget is the partners who were cheated on, many of whom have the same last names and addresses as the exposed users. They are probably not interested in having their lives put on display like that, and would likely have preferred to be told of these affairs in a less public way. This can also cause a great deal of psychological harm to them! The vigilantes behind this could have destroyed the lives of many innocent people who did not deserve this.

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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Does anyone know if it would it be illegal to look at and/or download this information once it is publicly available? I guess this would vary by country a bit. Would this count as 'possession of stolen goods' type thing? Seems likely, though catching people or having the will to is another thing.

Illegal, also once you've compiled a data base of PII the laws governing personal information apply to you so you can be screwed from both ways.

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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Does anyone know if it would it be illegal to look at and/or download this information once it is publicly available? I guess this would vary by country a bit. Would this count as 'possession of stolen goods' type thing? Seems likely, though catching people or having the will to is another thing.

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Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's another case to be considered here, too - people who have used the site, got caught/came clean, did the work to fix it and have rescued their marriages (or were doing it with the blessing of their spouse), and now are at risk for their name being published for viewing by their coworkers, neighbors, members of their church, etc as a "cheater", "adulterer", etc, even after they've ostensibly paid their moral de…

If your friends or coworkers abuse you because of their beliefs, then they are the ones causing harm, not the person who informed them. You sound like you're not giving full blame to those abusers or at least accepting that their behavior is inevitable. If you're a member of a church which abuses adulterers, and you don't think adulterers should be abused, then you're as much to blame by supporting that stance with y…

I think you're making the mistake of treating blame in this instance as though it has to add up to 100%, and blame on one party lessens it on another.

If my friend's dad hates gays, I tell him his son is gay knowing it's likely to cause violence, then the father and I are both total pieces of shit. His guilt does not absolve me in the least.

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cheating can also end bad relationships. Which prevents emotional harm. I'm going to go out on a limb, and guess that a lot of the users are kind of ambivalent as to whether their current relationship is going to last. Who else would use a site like that? People who are comfortable lying (e.g. "cheaters") probably just fake a profile on a regular site, and lie to their date as well. Yes, maybe they should approach th…

> Cheating can also end bad relationships. Um... cheating is by no means a requirement for ending a relationship. You can simply say, "This relationship is over." Cheating is extremely harmful, and on top of that often unnecessary. Couples should discuss and explore open relationships, and if they are not open to that, end the relationship. In virtually all cases, cheating is a totally unnecessary harm.

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Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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As much as I admire and respect the United States and its people, I can't be but amazed by the reactions to sex stories.

I have the impression that you can get away with anything, except sex. You can get away with incompetence, dilapidating tax payers' money, corruption, invasion of privacy, aggression on sovereign countries, authorizing torture, brutality, injustice. Big deal. Few care, and if they do, there are no consequences and no appologies. But God help you if your sex life is slightly different than what people say should someone's sex life be, it's the end of the world.

I found the whole Tiger Woods thing to be incredibly stupid. Appologizing to people you don't know because you slept with someone else than your wife. How exactly did several million people became part of the family?

I don't know why, but sex seems to be such a big deal in the U.S. media. You can shift the country's attention from something really important because the President enjoyed oral sex. Nevermind recording a conversation you're having with your friend.

Really.. How important is it to the nation which person is the President having sex with? It puts important things (like "Is he doing his job well?") to the background. "He's utterly incompetent, but he's never cheated on his wife and he's good people". Why would I care if he's having orgies if he's doing the job he was elected to do: doing everything for the interest of the people and the country.

Petraeus comes to mind, too. I mean a four-star General. Highly decorated. Going down for an extra-marrital affair. Seriously? Everything else he's done has the same weight and importance as "this"? The only thing it should have impact on is his family life, why should his career and public image suffer? Isn't this invasion of privacy from the public? And if we can tolerate this, shouldn't we tolerate that the Government spies on us and exposes what we do, in the media. Your dirtiest little secrets.

How come this phoniness and hypocrisy goes accepted? Politicians boasting "family values" shaming others for cheating while they themselves cheat. Boasting "family values" as an argument against same-sex marriage while you cheat on your husband/wife?. People pulling religion and abstinence stunts only to be discovered to be human after all and enjoying someone's body from time to time...

Why can this be used as ammunition by people who do it themselves, and how can the public opinion fall for these shaming campaigns by people who aren't clean from them.

How come whenever it's about cheating, it's mostly the men politician? Do you mean women don't cheat?

I simply don't understand how a country as developed as the U.S. can have the priorities organized in such an interesting way: 1- What X's sex life. 2-Everything else. Is it normal that people behave like 5 year olds seeing a vagina for the first time.

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

#58

Does anyone know if it would it be illegal to look at and/or download this information once it is publicly available? I guess this would vary by country a bit. Would this count as 'possession of stolen goods' type thing? Seems likely, though catching people or having the will to is another thing.

Illegal, also once you've compiled a data base of PII the laws governing personal information apply to you so you can be screwed from both ways.

So it's illegal to copy the phone book or class graduation lists?

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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As much as I admire and respect the United States and its people, I can't be but amazed by the reactions to sex stories. I have the impression that you can get away with anything, except sex. You can get away with incompetence, dilapidating tax payers' money, corruption, invasion of privacy, aggression on sovereign countries, authorizing torture, brutality, injustice. Big deal. Few care, and if they do, there are no…

What enlightened realm do you live in, pray?

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

#60

As much as I admire and respect the United States and its people, I can't be but amazed by the reactions to sex stories. I have the impression that you can get away with anything, except sex. You can get away with incompetence, dilapidating tax payers' money, corruption, invasion of privacy, aggression on sovereign countries, authorizing torture, brutality, injustice. Big deal. Few care, and if they do, there are no…

What enlightened realm do you live in, pray?

The 21st century.
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