Gmail spam filter is definitely not working well for me. Obvious spam is considered legit and emails from senders that I constantly report as "not spam" still get into the Junk Mail folder. Outlook.com's spam filter is doing a way better job for me!
Dear Google Mail Team
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Re: Dear Google Mail Team
#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can set up a filter to never mark the matching items a spam. That's what I do for the Lua Mailing list.
Come to think of it, if they're going to have a "Never send it to Spam" flag in filter config, shouldn't it default to TRUE? If you're taking the trouble to set up a filter, it's probably because you are interested in those messages.
Wait, where is the "Never send it to Spam" option? I cannot find this option.
Re: Dear Google Mail Team
#243I could see 20% false positives on spam for Linus equating to 0.1% of false positives across the board since I suspect the people emailing Linus are 200 times more likely to be running their own mail server than the general public.
I decided to do a quick check of my gmail; there were 151 emails in spam, and literally not one I would want in my inbox. It seems entirely likely that Google is weighting whether something comes from a private mail server very heavily, and Linus, being who he is, gets a lot of email from private servers. Not saying this isn't a problem, but it probably doesn't affect 99% of email users.
Oddly, I have had the opposite problem. This past week I have had to delete 4 or 5 obvious V!@g&a!!!!!-type spam emails from my priority tab of my inbox. I can't remember the last time I had that happen. Something isn't working quite right.
Re: Dear Google Mail Team
#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
I decided to do a quick check of my gmail; there were 151 emails in spam, and literally not one I would want in my inbox. It seems entirely likely that Google is weighting whether something comes from a private mail server very heavily, and Linus, being who he is, gets a lot of email from private servers. Not saying this isn't a problem, but it probably doesn't affect 99% of email users.
Oddly, I have had the opposite problem. This past week I have had to delete 4 or 5 obvious V!@g&a!!!!!-type spam emails from my priority tab of my inbox. I can't remember the last time I had that happen. Something isn't working quite right.
I wonder if they rolled out some kind of new algorithm, or major algorithm change before it was ready for prime time.
Re: Dear Google Mail Team
#245Earlier quoted context omitted.
And the moment someone accidentally clicks the SPAM button you'll find yourself with weeks of pain on a low volume mail server. Because, as an individual, you won't qualify for their FBL service and "mysteriously" you'll have weeks of everyone saying you end up in their spam folder.
The Gmail team recently launched[0] PostMaster tools[1]. I'm not sure if everyone has access, but maybe it would help? [0] http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2015/07/the-mail-you-want-not-... [1] https://postmaster.google.com/
Fun, but it doesn't scale. Google can only do this because they have a near-monopoly on email. What would you say if I gave you tools to whitelist yourself on my email server? You'd tell me to get my spamfilter straight, or more likely, simply ignore me.
I'm not against Gmail, just like I'm not against Outlook.com or Yahoo mail or something. It's just that providing tools only work for players in a power position (i.e. Google) who can afford to ignore small players (i.e. me), and what's more, this further strengthens their power position: the better they can detect spam so more people will start using it (the postmaster tools are there to help people prove they are good, thus helping Gmail distinguish).
Re: Dear Google Mail Team
#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which is illegal in the US[1] (and I believe EU, as well), and hence deserves to be reported as spam. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4496688
A big problem I've had is that many of these are "business relationship/transactional" e-mails, which play by different rules. My address is my first name + last initial (neither of which are all that uncommon), and this is made much worse by Gmails idiotic ignoring of periods in addresses. There is a dude in Denver, CO who is absolutely convinced his e-mail address is tyler.e@gmail.com. It isn't. I'm really sick of…
I have a rather uncommon first.last combination. Still, there is a woman in a flyover state married to a guy with my same name who seems to think my gmail address is his. I am building up quite the profile of their family. Thanks to Gmail I know where he works, what car she drives, where they went to college and where they fill prescriptions. Fortunately for them, I have no desire to use any of this information.
It is annoying however especially since most of the spam in my spam folder is addressed to her through my email address.
Re: Dear Google Mail Team
#247I am subscribed to the wine-devel, wine-bugs and wine-patches mailing lists ( https://www.winehq.org/forums ). Having the exact same issue. It seems to very easily flag discussion about .exes as spam, it's really disappointing. It's been several years and the filters haven't improved, despite me religiously flagging spam/not spam in those lists. In the end I just gave up and set up filters to specifically prevent mar…
You are "flagging spam/not spam in those lists" but Google may then associate that list (not the content) as being spam or not. Google sees that mail comes from the list and decides based on that. This is why I never mark mailing list email as spam, even if it is in fact spam.
That's my point. Everything that went to spam, I flagged as "not spam".
Re: Dear Google Mail Team
#248Earlier quoted context omitted.
I decided to do a quick check of my gmail; there were 151 emails in spam, and literally not one I would want in my inbox. It seems entirely likely that Google is weighting whether something comes from a private mail server very heavily, and Linus, being who he is, gets a lot of email from private servers. Not saying this isn't a problem, but it probably doesn't affect 99% of email users.
Oddly, I have had the opposite problem. This past week I have had to delete 4 or 5 obvious V!@g&a!!!!!-type spam emails from my priority tab of my inbox. I can't remember the last time I had that happen. Something isn't working quite right.
Have been seeing the same thing here as well. With spam messages coming through as normal mail.
I have also been having any messages that are replies to messages I send being diverted to my spam folder randomly. It is happening on both my personal gmail account and on a business account.
It seems lately Google has really been less focused on the core components that made them successful in the first place. I have found their search results seem to be returning more spam sites than before. My vote is to get Matt Cutts to come back and start cleaning up spam again :)
Re: Dear Google Mail Team
#249I run my own mail server with full SPF, DKIM and SRS, routing the mail through a relay at a reputable VPS provider on high-reputation IPs. Over the last few months, there seems to be this pattern where if I email someone @gmail who I've never mailed before, they don't seem to ever get it. I wonder if this is the issue.
I had a problem with my personal server for a little while; all my SPF, DKIM, etc was all set up for IPv4. I have a couple IPv6 interfaces on my machine, and my mailserver was delivering to GMail over IPv6!!
Yeah, most of the time reverse DNS on the IPv6 address is not configured, leading to rejection.
Re: Dear Google Mail Team
#250I've been actively interviewing for the past few weeks, and I've noticed that a very large number of emails from companies and recruiters (mostly recruiters) have been marked as Spam or at least shunted off to a non-Inbox folder. I don't have any specific custom filters in place, so this is 100% Gmail's doing. I find that interesting and frustrating -- and none of these companies/recruiters have ever seen this before…
I get quite a lot of spam that is meant to look like it's from a recruiter, but are clearly sent at random.