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Re: Dear Google Mail Team

#91

Post by meridional » Fri, Jul 17, 2015, 11:07 PM UTC

billconan wrote: post #21

very funny, right after I saw this, I decided to check my spam folder just to see if anything important has been filtered out, and I saw an email sent by google marked as a spam: this email is sent by google when logging in google account from a new machine. they tag their own email as spam ... Hi xxx, Your Google Account xxx@gmail.com was just used to sign in from Chrome on Windows. Don't recognize this activity? Re…

Not long ago, I found in my spam mailbox several emails sent by Google's recruiters (from @google.com domain). I was, at the time, going through their interview process.

Re: Dear Google Mail Team

#92

Post by Zelphyr » Fri, Jul 17, 2015, 11:07 PM UTC

Sadly, this is the typical level of quality for just about all Google products these days in my experience.

Re: Dear Google Mail Team

#93

Post by scrollaway » Fri, Jul 17, 2015, 11:08 PM UTC

applecore wrote: post #82

If they're mostly patches and pull requests, why doesn't this guy just whitelist those email addresses and domains?

Because there's a lot of new contributors to the kernel, all the time.

Re: Dear Google Mail Team

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Post by thaumaturgy » Fri, Jul 17, 2015, 11:08 PM UTC

click170 wrote: post #80

thaumaturgy wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd assume cybojanek is talking about majordomo-like mailing lists, the sort used by lots of open source projects, which typically require an email sent to a specific address with "unsubscribe" in the subject line and so on and so forth.

Curiously, having to email -unsubscribe@server.com to unsubscribe from a mailling list is, to me, preferable to having to login to a website in order to unsubscribe from the same mailing list. I think it's because I'm beginning to resent the idea of every website and its dog requiring that I have a user account before I'm allowed to even browse the content.

You're not alone. I much prefer majordomo to any other web-based mailing list system. I just chalked it up to a greybeard quirk; HN at large seems to be the opposite.

Re: Dear Google Mail Team

#95

Post by ThePowerOfDirge » Fri, Jul 17, 2015, 11:09 PM UTC

billconan wrote: post #21

very funny, right after I saw this, I decided to check my spam folder just to see if anything important has been filtered out, and I saw an email sent by google marked as a spam: this email is sent by google when logging in google account from a new machine. they tag their own email as spam ... Hi xxx, Your Google Account xxx@gmail.com was just used to sign in from Chrome on Windows. Don't recognize this activity? Re…

I lost a job application because the interview invitation ended up into my spam filter. Thanks, Google Accounts team!

Re: Dear Google Mail Team

#96

Post by justwannasing » Fri, Jul 17, 2015, 11:10 PM UTC

thaumaturgy wrote: post #35

dasil003 wrote: post #14

I could see 20% false positives on spam for Linus equating to 0.1% of false positives across the board since I suspect the people emailing Linus are 200 times more likely to be running their own mail server than the general public.

The hilarious -- or maybe really sickening -- thing is that Gmail itself has also become a much larger source of spam than it used to be. Those of us that are running mail servers are really not loving Google at the moment.

Haven't a clue what you mean. I run several mail servers and have no issues whatsoever with GMail. And I run through all the spam filtering, too, and only recall one that was inadvertently marked as spam but, iirc, the mailer was the problem.

Re: Dear Google Mail Team

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Post by TylerE » Fri, Jul 17, 2015, 11:11 PM UTC

dasil003 wrote: post #14

I could see 20% false positives on spam for Linus equating to 0.1% of false positives across the board since I suspect the people emailing Linus are 200 times more likely to be running their own mail server than the general public.

FWIW, I just checked my mail from the last week, and had 4 false positives, out of ~80 mails. That's WAY higher than I've traditionally had with Gmail, where I might expect that many in a year.

Re: Dear Google Mail Team

#98

Post by OscarCunningham » Fri, Jul 17, 2015, 11:12 PM UTC

I had to disable spam detection entirely on gmail because I was losing important emails every week. So now I just delete spam by hand.

Re: Dear Google Mail Team

#99

Post by usaphp » Fri, Jul 17, 2015, 11:13 PM UTC

Wow 3000 spam threads in just 4 days, how can he find time for actual work if he has so many emails to read/reply!

Re: Dear Google Mail Team

#100

Post by TylerE » Fri, Jul 17, 2015, 11:14 PM UTC

eCa wrote: post #83

pd1 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or when you need to log in again to unsubscribe

Which is illegal in the US[1] (and I believe EU, as well), and hence deserves to be reported as spam. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4496688

A big problem I've had is that many of these are "business relationship/transactional" e-mails, which play by different rules.

My address is my first name + last initial (neither of which are all that uncommon), and this is made much worse by Gmails idiotic ignoring of periods in addresses. There is a dude in Denver, CO who is absolutely convinced his e-mail address is tyler.e@gmail.com. It isn't. I'm really sick of getting his AT&T and car insurance e-mails.