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Pre ACA for a 30 year old non smoker with zero heath problems my plan was over 500$/month. Granted, VA health costs are probably higher, but that's a long way from 84$/month. Can you give details such as a link to the actual coverage?
https://www.priorityhealth.com/plans/individual-family/mypri...
Ask HN: Freelancers in the US: What do you do for health insurance?
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What Beached is saying is that he's not driving a car yet . You don't have to pay for car insurance when you don't have a car.
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Also, if a female can go from no prenatal care to prenatal care then there going to swap from one to the other when they decide to have kids which would distort the market. In the end it's the same reason you can't get insurance with and without support for specific diseases.
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#94Don't listen to politics in the comment. Here are some real life examples: I am married and have 2 kids. I got a gold plan through the marketplace for $1250 a month. I got no subsidies since I make more than is required. It's a pretty good plan but expensive. My last job which was pre-obamacare they were deducting $450 a month every 2 weeks for just my wife and I. So nothing really changed for me. On a sidenote my co…
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
What Beached is saying is that he's not driving a car yet . You don't have to pay for car insurance when you don't have a car.
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If you are a single guy with no kids, do you also complain about property taxes funding public schools? After all you have no kids, you are paying for something you don't use. If you go single or DINK, then it is something you will never use.
Really, this is why I think single payer or just full-on nationalized health would work better in the end. Insurance is just another tax now, and there is no point to put private companies in the middle of it.
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#96Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan. When we started out it only cost about $500/month. Jumped to $890 and deductible went to $23K with the affordable healthcare act. Basically, now we pay all of our health care out of pocket.
Have you looked at other plans since the ACA exchange went live? I've never seen an ACA plan with a deductible that high...
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> a plan through Priority health on the market place cost 2x as much as the same plan purchase through the same insurer individually. ... On the market place, a qualifying plan must meet ALL ACA requirement Doesn't the ACA require all insurance plans to meet its standards? If there wasn't that requirement, why would insurance companies offer ACA-compliant plans? > I agree that per-existing conditions should not be de…
The problem is that in order to do true risk pooling, you need to be able to charge based on risk. The ACA (Obamacare) has eliminated much of that making the cost the same for everyone at a given level. And it turns out that many healthy people have continued to opt out and many of the new enrollees are people who couldn't get coverage elsewhere. None of this is a judgement, just the raw math of the situation. Here's…
Why is that a problem? I'm not sure why a less diverse risk pool is inherently better than a more diverse one. Certainly I want very ill people to receive medical care, and it seems as broad as possible a risk pool facillitates that.
> it turns out that many healthy people have continued to opt out and many of the new enrollees are people who couldn't get coverage elsewhere.
Don't opt-outs have to pay the fine, which funds medical care regardless (or do those funds go elsewhere)? The fines might be less than insurance payments, but I'd assume they are all profit. The opt-outs consume generate zero claims and costs from insurers.
The paragraph you quote doesn't say healthy people are opting out; it says the insurance company is claiming higher costs than they expected and wants a rate increase. Their expectations could have been wrong, or they simply might want to raise rates and are making a case for it (or their claim could be legitimate, of course); I'd guess reality is some mix of the three.
Re: Ask HN: Freelancers in the US: What do you do for health insurance?
#98The Freelancers Union now offers health insurance ( https://www.freelancersunion.org/benefits/ ). NY was their pilot state.
But with the Affordable Care Act, individual plans are no longer medically underwritten, so how are those groups helpful?
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#99I am male, early thirties, married with children. We have a high-end ACA-compliant plan purchased directly from Florida Blue. At almost $1600/month, it's really freakin' expensive. But we have various health issues between us that make us uninsurable for any reasonable amount via individual plans, and that also mean we use a lot of health care. Prior to ACA, we had my wife and kids on a COBRA plan out of Maryland fro…
When you applied for insurance, did they acquire your medical history?
1. http://kff.org/health-reform/perspective/how-buying-insuranc...
2. http://blog.rmhp.org/2013/12/sticker-shock-obamacare-and-the...
Re: Ask HN: Freelancers in the US: What do you do for health insurance?
#100Don't listen to politics in the comment. Here are some real life examples: I am married and have 2 kids. I got a gold plan through the marketplace for $1250 a month. I got no subsidies since I make more than is required. It's a pretty good plan but expensive. My last job which was pre-obamacare they were deducting $450 a month every 2 weeks for just my wife and I. So nothing really changed for me. On a sidenote my co…
Can you clarify this: > deducting $450 a month every 2 weeks That is confusing/doesn't make sense.