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Ask HN: Freelancers in the US: What do you do for health insurance?

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Re: Ask HN: Freelancers in the US: What do you do for health insurance?

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The cost went up because of the pre-existing condition situation. Pre Obama Care, if you had any kind of pre-existing condition, you wouldn't be able to buy the $84 coverage. (I got stuck having to get a normal job because of a pre-existing condition.)

Yes, Since I do not have any pre-existing condition, and have never smoked, that $84 would have been mine. Because no insurer can decline someone, my cost went up to make insurance for people with per-existing conditions more affordable.

> Since I do not have any pre-existing condition, and have never smoked, that $84

I'm almost 40 and never had use of my health insurance - if you are like me you can save 124$ per month !

Think of all those years I would have been able to save. Same thing for my car (never stolen, no accident), house insurance (no theft), professional liability insurance, travel insurance (no problem so far), life insurance (still alive), payment protection insurance (still employed), critical illness insurance on the mortgage (thanks god).

Don't be bitter about it. I don't regret it for a second all that money spent. I feel lucky every day if the little premium I pay prevent me to see a friend in misery. And by the time you get my age, you will have seen a lot of stuff happening around you (to me it started around age 28, shit happening somewhere is sadly too common nowadays).

Re: Ask HN: Freelancers in the US: What do you do for health insurance?

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I am male, early thirties, married with children. We have a high-end ACA-compliant plan purchased directly from Florida Blue. At almost $1600/month, it's really freakin' expensive. But we have various health issues between us that make us uninsurable for any reasonable amount via individual plans, and that also mean we use a lot of health care.

Prior to ACA, we had my wife and kids on a COBRA plan out of Maryland from when we lived there (God bless Maryland for making COBRA last as long as you want, and making it last even when you leave the state) and me on a separate individual policy. Together they were about as expensive as our current plan, and they had higher deductibles/OOP max and poorer coverage.

Still grateful for the Maryland coverage, though, as I would have had to have a normal job once we moved to FL otherwise.

Re: Ask HN: Freelancers in the US: What do you do for health insurance?

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Self employed health insurance in New York is ludicrously expensive, or at least it was prior to Obamacare. I've been on my wife's employer's plan but before that, I used Freelancer's Union which is NY only. I'm a big fan of their organization and everything they offer. The health insurance itself is a group plan and more or less provides what an employer's plan would. They also offer other types of benefits you'd expect from an employer.

Re: Ask HN: Freelancers in the US: What do you do for health insurance?

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> Obama care cost 2x as much as an individual plan What is an Obamacare plan? I thought the ACA created a marketplace that listed plans from insurers, and set minimums for coverage (that would apply to options #2 and #3). I haven't had to deal with it so I don't know. > this same exact coverage would have only cost me $84/m before 2014 when Obama care went into play How else has the ACA affected your insurance? For e…

> What is an Obamacare plan? I thought the ACA created a marketplace that listed plans from insurers, and set minimums for coverage (that would apply to options #2 and #3). I haven't had to deal with it so I don't know. Ironically a plan through Priority health on the market place cost 2x as much as the same plan purchase through the same insurer individually. This is for a couple reasons: On the market place, a qual…

> I agree that per-existing conditions should not be denied for coverage, however I do not agree that those without conditions should be required to pay higher premiums to subsidize their premiums. (sounds harsh I know, but thats my opinion.)

The problem is that insurers try to deny claims based on a patient having a pre-existing condition that they weren't paying for.

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> Obama care cost 2x as much as an individual plan What is an Obamacare plan? I thought the ACA created a marketplace that listed plans from insurers, and set minimums for coverage (that would apply to options #2 and #3). I haven't had to deal with it so I don't know. > this same exact coverage would have only cost me $84/m before 2014 when Obama care went into play How else has the ACA affected your insurance? For e…

> What is an Obamacare plan? I thought the ACA created a marketplace that listed plans from insurers, and set minimums for coverage (that would apply to options #2 and #3). I haven't had to deal with it so I don't know. Ironically a plan through Priority health on the market place cost 2x as much as the same plan purchase through the same insurer individually. This is for a couple reasons: On the market place, a qual…

"however I wish that they just expanded the medicare program to give these subsidies"

This would have been a much better overall option vs entire ACA mess. Is the issue access to health insurance or access to health care service? I feel like the two got mixed together quite often (not sure how much was actual intentional deception vs truly not grokking the difference) but... insurance is not the same as care, and moving towards universal health care vs universal health insurance... I don't know when we'll ever get to the former. :/

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Yes, Since I do not have any pre-existing condition, and have never smoked, that $84 would have been mine. Because no insurer can decline someone, my cost went up to make insurance for people with per-existing conditions more affordable.

The fact that you didn't have to buy insurance until 26 is a result of Obamacare too. Think of all the money you saved being on that insurance for several extra years. You're welcome! And maybe in part because you're spending that $84 now someone else who has a pre-existing condition and no health insurance will be able to not die or go bankrupt if they get something serious. You have to buy insurance because our sys…

>The fact that you didn't have to buy insurance until 26 is a result of Obamacare too. Think of all the money you saved being on that insurance for several extra years. You're welcome!

yes i am aware that the 26 rule is an obama care result. However, if I am nice, and I am, I pay my parents the extra cost per month to go from a spousal plan to a family plan, which is $85/m, shocker.... However if my parents had other kids younger then me that required a family plan it would have saved me money, yes. in my response to another post, i noted that this was really the only positive to Obama care that I experienced.

>And maybe in part because you're spending that $84 someone else who has a pre-existing condition and no health insurance will be able to not die or go bankrupt if they get something serious.

I dont think it is fair that I have to pay for someone elses health care expenses. ESPECIALLY since that someone else doesnt take the time of day to shop around for the best coverage for the cost, care to look at success rates to avoid re-works, or heaven for bid, self diagnose themselves and go directly to a specialist that can result in more expensive care. If people actually had to pay for the coverage they used, they would take the time to shop around and make informed decisions, and do things like exercise and eat well, avoid smoking and recreational drugs, then people with pre-existing conditions, and low incomes wouldnt have to pay so much for their care. Its called capitalism, and the health insurance industry would look VERY different. Obama care only gets us farther from where we need to be, and makes the entire situation worse. I know I sound like a jack ass right now because some people would suffer in the short term, but if you eliminated obama care, and the health insurance industry, we would be better off in 10 years. keep medicare for the poor, old, and disabled if you want, keeping it will have very little affect as its an income tax and not a premium subsidy.

>You have to buy insurance because our system now factors in the strain on the system you would cause if something happened to you and you didn't have insurance. Just think of it like a tax (or the tax penalty like a tax, and the subsidy like a reward for responsible behavior.) That's how the Supreme Court thought of it.

If the government allowed care providers to go after uninsured individuals assets and not eat the costs. AND if the government allowed back charging for care given to qualified medicare/medicaid individuals, there would be no need to increase the burden on me to help pay for everyone else who goes in for care un covered. over 75% of the uncovered costs pre-ACA are people treating the ER like their PCP anyways. If we allowed capitalism to work, those individuals who go to the ER for a cold would eventually go to a PCP and only pay $25 for the visit and $15 for the generic meds.

Re: Ask HN: Freelancers in the US: What do you do for health insurance?

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I became a freelance 13 years ago. On COBRA for a while. Looked for IEEE group insurance but HI wasn't covered then. The insurance company (HMSA) offered a switch to individual plan. It wasn't too bad initially ($350/mo for me and my wife, HMO, $500/$1000 ded.) But then the premium soared and also we had a kid; at peak it was $1050/mo without drug, vision and dental. I learned antibiotics are pretty expensive. After…

You should visit your local pet store, in the aquarium fish section, and check out the products available for maintaining the health and well-being of your fish. And you should also learn the generic drug names or IUPAC chemical names for the commonly prescribed antibiotics. I'm not saying those two suggestions are in any way related, other than the possibility that doing both could save you a great deal of money, in…

I have an unhealthy fish. What brand would you recommend?

Re: Ask HN: Freelancers in the US: What do you do for health insurance?

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> What is an Obamacare plan? I thought the ACA created a marketplace that listed plans from insurers, and set minimums for coverage (that would apply to options #2 and #3). I haven't had to deal with it so I don't know. Ironically a plan through Priority health on the market place cost 2x as much as the same plan purchase through the same insurer individually. This is for a couple reasons: On the market place, a qual…

You are required to buy prenatal care because it wasn't fair for young women to have much higher insurance costs then young men just because they get pregnant more often...you know it takes two to tango.

I am happy to pay for prenatal care IF AND WHEN my wife/partner and I decide to have a child. and in that instance, yes I would be paying for prenatal care, however I do not think it is right for the government to force me to purchase ANY SERVICE that I may not want or may not use, such as prenatal care.

Those young women who made the decision to have sex not knowing if the individual they "Tangoed" with would help with any costs or work will soon learn that it was a poor decision. Sheltering the consequences of ones actions is not an affective way to direct behavior for the masses. That young girls friends will see that it was hell, and their parents will learn it was an expensive decision, and then those other girls and their parents will do a better job being responsible citizen. I shouldnt have to pay for coverage that is ultimately needed because of poor parenting.

And yes, with any statistical examination there will be a small percentage of people that statistics work against, IE. the less the 1% of pregnancies due to rape.

Re: Ask HN: Freelancers in the US: What do you do for health insurance?

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I'm in NYC, recently turned 26 and signed up for the cheapest Oscar plan available. It's only around $180 a month — fairly high deductible (~$6,000) but includes free preventative care and a couple free primary care visits per year. I believe this "catastrophic plan" is only available for people under 30 yrs old, otherwise the cheapest is more like $300. Also doesn't cover prescriptions, but I don't have any so it seemed the best option for me right now.

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> What is an Obamacare plan? I thought the ACA created a marketplace that listed plans from insurers, and set minimums for coverage (that would apply to options #2 and #3). I haven't had to deal with it so I don't know. Ironically a plan through Priority health on the market place cost 2x as much as the same plan purchase through the same insurer individually. This is for a couple reasons: On the market place, a qual…

Pre ACA for a 30 year old non smoker with zero heath problems my plan was over 500$/month. Granted, VA health costs are probably higher, but that's a long way from 84$/month. Can you give details such as a link to the actual coverage?

https://www.priorityhealth.com/plans/individual-family/mypri...
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