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Re: Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules

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Post by taytus » Fri, Jun 26, 2015, 2:38 PM UTC

baakss wrote: post #30

In my lifetime, I think this is the social issue that has seen the most positive change. As a kid, gay people were practically lepers. Eleven Years ago, Dave Chappelle just outright said "gay sex is just gross, sorry it just is", and it was considered funny and acceptable. (Not harping on him specifically, just pointing out what it was like in 2004) Seven years ago prop 8 passed, if barely with some caveats about lac…

Dave Chappelle is a comedian, they say stuff like that all the time, it's part of their job. If you are going to quote somebody (specially on these issues), I'd recommend not to quote a comedian.

Re: Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules

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Post by pavanky » Fri, Jun 26, 2015, 2:38 PM UTC

tosseraccount wrote: post #5

If love is about ignoring race,class,gender,age shouldn't it be about ignoring numbers, too? Polygamy is the next hurdle for society. The judges should declare all consenting marriage legal !

Or make all marriages inconsequential.

Re: Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules

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Post by Lawtonfogle » Fri, Jun 26, 2015, 2:39 PM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #31

Lawtonfogle wrote: post #8

Is there a general summary of the arguments made by the dissenting 4?

Don't get the tl;dr summary of Scalia's dissent; actually read it. Scalia is obnoxious and mean-spirited (and in fine form this time), but he's a really good writer, the fun- to- read kind. IIRC, he wrote a book on writing with Brian Garner, of usage dictionary fame.

I plan to read both sides later, but I don't expect to be able to fit them in during lunch time.

Re: Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules

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Post by troycarlson » Fri, Jun 26, 2015, 2:39 PM UTC

ebbv wrote: post #18

feld wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think he meant it like that. I echo the sentiment: it shouldn't have come to this. It should not have been a social, political, or legal issue. There's so much hate and bigotry in this country that needs to go away. edit: at least I hope he didn't mean it like that :(

Whichever way he meant it, his comment shows a very dismissive attitude toward the massive work that was involved in accomplishing this. It's true it shouldn't have been a fight, but it was. And the idea that there are so many "more important" issues, is also incredibly dismissive to how important the right to marriage equality is.

By "more important" I mean that intelligent people view marriage equality as a fundamental right that we shouldn't have to fight for. Now that we don't have to fight for marriage equality, we can move on to other issues that may warrant more of a fight.

I think you and I feel the same way about equal rights in general...it can just be hard to distill and convey some opinions via an HN thread.

Re: Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules

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Post by ionforce » Fri, Jun 26, 2015, 2:39 PM UTC

toomuchtodo wrote: post #19

agd wrote: post #4

Great decision. It's amazing how quickly gay rights have advanced in the western world. Unfortunately it's still legal in many states to discriminate against employees on the basis of sexual orientation. Hopefully that's next to be fixed.

You eat an elephant one bite at a time. EDIT: I did not mean to cause a trainwreck below this comment. It was the quickest way on mobile to communicate "all big problems are tackled one task at a time".

Are you calling me an elephant? Now I'll never fit in my wedding dress! /runsaway

(guys, it's a joke)

Re: Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules

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Post by collyw » Fri, Jun 26, 2015, 2:39 PM UTC

tosseraccount wrote: post #27

SCHiM wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with your sentiment, but no with your account name. I don't think you deserve to be downvoted.

Why restrict love to one person?

We aren't as open minded on here as we like to think.

Re: Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules

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Post by brudgers » Fri, Jun 26, 2015, 2:39 PM UTC

The title of the post is incorrect.

Re: Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jun 26, 2015, 2:40 PM UTC

plg wrote: post #45

Can we finally stop calling it "gay marriage" and "traditional marriage" and just call it "marriage" now? good job USA I'm glad you are finally catching up to the rest of the developed world.

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Re: Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules

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Post by eli_gottlieb » Fri, Jun 26, 2015, 2:40 PM UTC

plg wrote: post #45

Can we finally stop calling it "gay marriage" and "traditional marriage" and just call it "marriage" now? good job USA I'm glad you are finally catching up to the rest of the developed world.

>I'm glad you are finally catching up to the rest of the developed world.

What fraction of the developed world had gay marriage, at what time, such that this statement makes sense?

I mean, Massachusetts legalized gay marriage in, what, 2003?

Re: Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules

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Post by taki1 » Fri, Jun 26, 2015, 2:40 PM UTC

[deleted] wrote: post #39

taki1 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I love Gay Indian Restaurants too!

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oh come on, you understood the "eating an elephant" reference, but you don't understand "gay indian restaurant", you will make me cry! What a brute!