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Same-Sex Marriage Is a Right, Supreme Court Rules

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Is there a general summary of the arguments made by the dissenting 4?

Don't get the tl;dr summary of Scalia's dissent; actually read it. Scalia is obnoxious and mean-spirited (and in fine form this time), but he's a really good writer, the fun- to- read kind.

IIRC, he wrote a book on writing with Brian Garner, of usage dictionary fame.

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Great decision. It's amazing how quickly gay rights have advanced in the western world. Unfortunately it's still legal in many states to discriminate against employees on the basis of sexual orientation. Hopefully that's next to be fixed.

You eat an elephant one bite at a time. EDIT: I did not mean to cause a trainwreck below this comment. It was the quickest way on mobile to communicate "all big problems are tackled one task at a time".

Yeah, I love Gay Indian Restaurants too!

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Hopefully this whole "issue" will just go away soon...so many more important things that deserve the public's attention. Edit: To clarify, I support marriage equality and believe this is great news that deserves celebrating.

What's more important. Denial of a basic social rite to the 5-10% who are gay, or something like NSA spying that gets tremendous attention on places like HN but only has a material impact on almost nobody?

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post #16

Great news. Glad this won't be an issue going into the next presidential election. There's been so much time wasted on this issue when, at the end of the day, any 2 consenting adults should have all of the same rights as any other 2 consenting adults (barring felony conviction, poor mental health eval, etc).

I agree, I'm tired of hearing about this topic and the time wasted on it.

Although, I'm waiting for the 3 consenting adults lawsuit, that will be interesting.

EDIT: since the world is full of reactionaries that love to take things out of context; my public disclaimer on this is that I have no issue with this ruling.

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good...now maybe the so-called "leftists" can put this issue aside and concentrate on issues that matter to more than about 1% of the population...I refer to these really "silly" issues like wages, single-payer healthcare (obamacare is a mess), trade, flooding of the labor supply, the drug war, worker rights and benefits, more time off and vacation, monopolies, regulatory capture, NIMBYized zoning/regs (aka affordable housing)...you know, the issues that matter to all americans, the issues that used to occupy leftists before they got sidetracked with The Most Important Issue Of All Time.

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post #6

Hopefully this whole "issue" will just go away soon...so many more important things that deserve the public's attention. Edit: To clarify, I support marriage equality and believe this is great news that deserves celebrating.

Spoken like a straight person who has never been denied the ability to do something straight people take for granted.

Spoken like a person who's never been locked in jail for 10 years and been repeatedly beaten and raped during that time, all for selling pot.

There are a lot bigger problems than being refused a small amount of government subsidies for your relationship choices. (Note that I am also refused those subsidies since I'm single.)

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post #6

Hopefully this whole "issue" will just go away soon...so many more important things that deserve the public's attention. Edit: To clarify, I support marriage equality and believe this is great news that deserves celebrating.

Spoken like a straight person who has never been denied the ability to do something straight people take for granted.

I hear it as "issue" with some sarcasm. As in, I can't believe this isn't settled already since it's such an obvious answer. I believe he is saying it wouldn't be an "issue" if people actually appealed to reason.

But I get why you would be offended, the struggles and hardships should not be taken lightly. In effect a white male could make the same comment about women's suffrage and it would not be cast in a good light at all.

Anyway, congratulations! I'm so glad people are finally seeing reason and you can take one more step towards being treated truly equal!

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You eat an elephant one bite at a time. EDIT: I did not mean to cause a trainwreck below this comment. It was the quickest way on mobile to communicate "all big problems are tackled one task at a time".

Yeah, I love Gay Indian Restaurants too!

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post #6

Hopefully this whole "issue" will just go away soon...so many more important things that deserve the public's attention. Edit: To clarify, I support marriage equality and believe this is great news that deserves celebrating.

Spoken like a straight person who has never been denied the ability to do something straight people take for granted.

I think you're misinterpreting my comment. I absolutely believe that all people deserve equal treatment and opportunities. We obviously aren't there yet, and far too many LGBT folks have been treated horribly for far too long. I find it shameful and embarrassing that our lawmakers have persisted these backwards "anti-X" policies that "should" have never taken root at all. I'm hopeful that soon we'll look back at these anti-LGBT policies the same way we look at racist, sexist, etc. policies from the pre-60's US.
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