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Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

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There are many slack alternatives out already, as volent has pointed out. What I'd like to see is one that is based on Tox technology. Having a decentralised network would be much better as it would remove all costs of self-hosting.

It is more oriented towards real time and spontaneous conversations, but my Firestr project is a p2p chat/app platform. I am working on the idea of more persistent conversations. Check it out, it is still alpha but works well. I am always open for help to make it more awesome too. http://firestr.com https://github.com/mempko/firestr

Hos does your network work? Is it compleatly distributed, like Tox or does it rely on nodes?

Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

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Is XMPP a standard? I know that everyone just ignores it.

Yep, and Slack supports it, along with IRC.

Cool I guess that one can just transfer easily between vendors then?

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You know what else is a great open-source on-premises Slack alternative? Most IRCds.

I've run numerous IRCd's for decades. They are completely stable and scale to 10's of thousands of users per VM. I can't even remember the last time I had one crash. There are already tons of integrations for IRC. It is just difficult to get people to understand the simplistic beauty of IRC. People like "shiny", as mobile phone addictions have proven. There are not many great web front ends for IRC that are secure at the same time as being shiny.

Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

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Yep, and Slack supports it, along with IRC.

Cool I guess that one can just transfer easily between vendors then?

Not sure if XMPP covers that, I'm guessing not, but you can export your message history as a dump of JSON files.

Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

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I recently switched from a company using HipChat to a company using Slack, and the differences seem mostly cosmetic and immaterial. Are the differences between these various chat programs big enough to affect user experience or productivity? What distinguishes one from the next?

One of the biggest differences for us was the option for a self hosted solution with HipChat. Both companies are fairly open about accessing user communications without any sort of permission or audit trail. Being able to self host it ensures that Atlassian or Slack employees aren't dropping into our chats.

Check the fine print. Even with the self-hosted version, Atlassian is scraping the chat data for analytic purposes. This was confirmed by Atlassian support via a HIPPA audit at my last gig.

Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

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One thing I really like and appreciate is that there's a dockerfile right in the root of the project, which makes spinning up a container a relatively nice experience... haven't run it or looked into the code though... that just struck out at me... Looking at the dockerfile, it seems pretty big, and it also strikes me slightly that they have dependencies on node, ruby and go, along with mysql and redis. The UI appear…

I think it's nice that they support Docker, but I was disappointed that their entire installation instructions were "install docker then run our image". I had to read the dockerfile and the "start" script to find out what the actual dependencies and setup steps are. https://github.com/mattermost/platform/blob/master/Dockerfil... https://github.com/mattermost/platform/blob/master/docker/do... Surely even docker users…

I agree that a dockerfile isn't perfect, but it's not that bad either as a machine readable install guide that doesn't fall out of date as easily as documentation written for human consumption.

Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

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Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

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> We’re a YC-backed indie video game company releasing an open source alternative to Slack. Don't want to troll you guys here, but if you're a video game company why are you spending so much time building a Slack clone? I was expecting some short of explanation in your blog post like "we did this because this serves as a core piece of our company for X reason and Slack didn't fit our use case for Y reason".

What's wrong with that? Many great products started at companies which are not "supposed" to do that as their core business. Pivotal Tracker is one thing that immediately sprang to my mind. Why do you want to strictly limit what a company is working on, and potentially kill great ideas anyways. I believe as long as they're still functioning, their game development business is probably totally fine. The same applies to a person: I don't believe if you work on something as a full-time job you're then not allowed to have your hobbies, side projects(some of which are quite huge in scale) and personal interests. That would be horrible.

Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

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Such self-hosted services might help us a lot, as Slack is currently blocked in China already. I think the two main reasons are that the Chinese government is unable to inspect the data at will, and also they fear sensitive data being leaked to the US government easily, which is actually quite legit. No interest in politics nonsense and having full control over your own sensitive data is probably the best possible thing to do.
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