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Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

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Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

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Post by geofft »

fixxer wrote: post #103
orkoden wrote: post #100

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A great RFC instead a dozen incompatible startups would be the best thing since IRC.

The best thing since IRC is IRC.

Slack has the advantage of maintaining message history server-side instead of client-side, so you can catch up on things you missed without running a client in a screen session (or a bouncer, or a logger, or...). This functionality is part of the core protocol.

Is there a similar standard for IRC? If not, then IRC is serving a different use case.

Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

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Post by shmerl »

JupiterMoon wrote: post #136
orkoden wrote: post #101

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There are standards for E-Mail though. So you can move your mail around different providers. With your chat system it's a lot harder. You can't move your yammer content into slack easily.

Is XMPP a standard? I know that everyone just ignores it.

It is IETF standard.

Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

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Post by sciurus »

tracker1 wrote: post #17

One thing I really like and appreciate is that there's a dockerfile right in the root of the project, which makes spinning up a container a relatively nice experience... haven't run it or looked into the code though... that just struck out at me... Looking at the dockerfile, it seems pretty big, and it also strikes me slightly that they have dependencies on node, ruby and go, along with mysql and redis. The UI appear…

I think it's nice that they support Docker, but I was disappointed that their entire installation instructions were "install docker then run our image". I had to read the dockerfile and the "start" script to find out what the actual dependencies and setup steps are.

https://github.com/mattermost/platform/blob/master/Dockerfil...

https://github.com/mattermost/platform/blob/master/docker/do...

Surely even docker users don't want to run this app, mysql, postfix, redis, react, and compass all in the same container?

Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

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Post by jessaustin »

jdp23 wrote: post #117
javiercr wrote: post #43

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It's like back in 2010 when everyone was building free / open source Basecamp clones.

Yeah whatever happened to all of those?

Whatever happened to Basecamp itself? I used to hear about it all the time...

Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

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Post by richmarr »

thebaer wrote: post #145
richmarr wrote: post #50

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...and because so few people apparently realise that's Slack's value is in the quality execution, which can be copied by a decent team (but takes a phenomenal team to beat).

Genuine question: what did/do they execute on so well? I've only read about them having a great launch strategy.

In my view; product design & build quality. Yammer were already doing most of what Slack does. Tiny Speck took that and UX'd the shit out of it until it was a joy to use.

Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

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Post by joaoqalves »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #144
joaoqalves wrote: post #143

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Well, the ``license.txt``available at the GitHub repository states that any enhancement made to the server must shared back with the community. So, even if you are using an enhanced version internally, you must redistribute it publicly.

Still its not clear that file can compel someone to even reveal what they do internally. Its an empty promise.

Yeah but if, for any reason, your company gets sued because they violated the AGPL license you're probably fucked.

Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

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Post by richmarr »

richmarr wrote: post #54

Unlike Slack, Mattermost is open source... Teams suffer when SaaS companies lose focus. Since it’s open source, Mattermost can endure through its community. If quality declines, anyone can fork the code and take stewardship. Open source and focus are the wrong arguments here. (a) Mattermost is built by a video game company, so there is no focus to start with. (b) Moving from a SaaS product to a self-hosted open sourc…

Anonymous downvoters: please build up some courage and actually contribute. I don't bite.

Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

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Post by jakejake »

volent wrote: post #5

I don't really get why there is so many Slack alternatives coming up these days. On every post like this there is tons of comment linking to other Slack alternatives, it's not like this is gonna be _the_ Slack-alternative. Here is a non exhaustive list : RocketChat : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9624737 Let's Chat : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9040841 Friends : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=94…

I think when developers see a simple, successful product they say to themselves "hey, I could do that!" So we wind up with a thousand to-do apps. Slack is a step or two in complexity beyond a to-do app. Simply copying a product like slack is not that difficult. Building an "amazing" version of a product while re-inventing small details is the clever part.

Re: Mattermost: Open-source, on-premises, Slack alternative

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Post by amelius »

gukov wrote: post #149
jmkni wrote: post #90

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I guess it's because it looks like a pretty easy application to build. 'Looks like' being key there.

https://scotch.io/courses/building-a-slack-clone-in-meteor-j...

Chat programs are the hello world programs of the era of the social web.
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