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Reproducing functionality and growing an idea is fine. It's the blatant disregard to UX and UI where this company has literally pixel for pixel ripped off slack.
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Genuine question: what did/do they execute on so well? I've only read about them having a great launch strategy.
In my view; product design & build quality. Yammer were already doing most of what Slack does. Tiny Speck took that and UX'd the shit out of it until it was a joy to use.
What a horribly uncreative rip off. That may sound harsh but I'm a bit floored that this is getting so much attention...but YC right? Reproducing functionality and growing an idea is fine. It's the blatant disregard to UX and UI where this company has literally pixel for pixel ripped off slack.
I'm finding it hard to parse this sentence. Are you saying ripping off Slack is the blatant disregard, or are you saying Slack pioneered a blatant disregard for UX and UI?
I don't really get why there is so many Slack alternatives coming up these days. On every post like this there is tons of comment linking to other Slack alternatives, it's not like this is gonna be _the_ Slack-alternative. Here is a non exhaustive list : RocketChat : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9624737 Let's Chat : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9040841 Friends : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=94…
Has anyone used a self-hosted one they were satisfied with? Which one?
> Teams who can’t use SaaS rely on cryptic, decades-old technologies. As an example, the US Army uses myIRC to order missile strikes "myIRC" doesn't exist. The name of the protocol is IRC. The name of a popular Windows client is mIRC. WikiLeaks called their leak "mIRC logs," which is where this trope came from. The United States military (not just the Army) uses Internet Relay Chat for a whole lot of C2. It runs on a…
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The best thing since IRC is IRC.
Slack has the advantage of maintaining message history server-side instead of client-side, so you can catch up on things you missed without running a client in a screen session (or a bouncer, or a logger, or...). This functionality is part of the core protocol. Is there a similar standard for IRC? If not, then IRC is serving a different use case.
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It may be a perfect match, given that Slack has been created by a game dev team too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slack_Technologies#Initial_fun...
It's rather funny how Stewart Butterfield keeps trying to build games, and ending up with social apps. His first company, Ludicorp, tried to build an MMORPG called Game Neverending, which never launched, and they pivoted to create Flickr, apparently based on the same platform (which is why ".gne" URLs proliferated Flickr originally). With Tiny Speck, he created Glitch, another MMORPG, which closed a little more than…
I'm impressed that Stewart Butterfield is able to look at these systems and recognize which ones could be a viable (and successful!) stand-alone product.
What a horribly uncreative rip off. That may sound harsh but I'm a bit floored that this is getting so much attention...but YC right? Reproducing functionality and growing an idea is fine. It's the blatant disregard to UX and UI where this company has literally pixel for pixel ripped off slack.
> It's the blatant disregard to UX and UI where this company has literally pixel for pixel ripped off slack. I'm finding it hard to parse this sentence. Are you saying ripping off Slack is the blatant disregard, or are you saying Slack pioneered a blatant disregard for UX and UI?
What I meant was that Mattermost is blatantly disregarding their UI/UX by just ripping off Slack. If design was that easy we'd all have the same looking/feeling/functioning product.
There's been a number of questions of what's coming from Mattermost, and how we design things. I wanted to share some raw, unpolished work we have of what's coming up.
It's a feature called "App Center" that we're working on to support 3rd party applications.
It's just a Google Doc of our early design that we're sharing on Hacker News to get feedback: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s6vrticxgz9PsxePQ-dFrsKp...
Would you find this interface interesting for building 3rd party apps?
What do you like about the design?
What do you wish we changed?
There's a couple 1st party Apps we'd start with, like an Admin Console and a Custom Web App. We're thinking there could be a marketplace for 3rd party workflow apps.
Example: create an "Expense Report" app where a user can upload the photo of a receipt from lunch from their phone and type "#expense #meals" and have a 3rd party app create a labeled expense report that would be viewable in App Center.
Would love to hear thoughts from the community. This is an early idea, it's just a Google Doc right now. Your input would help shape it.