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This has been going on for a thousand years in the region. The Ottoman empire was constantly capturing slaves from the Balkans and East Europe. It was a cornerstone of their civilization. Slavery was abolished in the 19th century but the market just moved underground.
I live in a country where prostitution is legal and not taken as taboo. All I can say is that it makes things easier for everybody. Many use their bodies as a "small business", having their own personal marketing, credit card processor and online clients, increasing and improving their portfolio. Because they have such leverage, they end up being strict on what they'd do and even who their client is. In case somethin…
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Oh noes it's all teh muslamics fault! I don't know how much of an idiot you have to be to fall for this right wing fear mongering bullshit. It's not politically incorrect - it's just incorrect!
Let's have a simple quiz: There is a certain group of people in a certain part of the world today that are kidnapping, raping, enslaving, decapitating, immolating, and otherwise mutilating and murdering innocent people. They are attracting followers from around the world. Question: this group is universally comprised of members of which religion? Question: this group has explicitly declared the rest of the world to b…
Group B is using the undeniable fact that some factions of Group A intend us harm to claim that all of Group A is responsible for all the the worlds evils. (The deleted post claimed that Islam was responsible for all the human trafficking in the world for example).
Some members of Group B (the despicable Britain First in the UK) have some completely bonkers beliefs that credulous idiots like the op retransmit without apparently giving them a nano seconds critical thought - e.g. "TEH MUSLAMISTS WANT TO MAKE ARE WATER HALAL" or "TEH AVERAGE MUSLAMIC WOMAN HAS XX CHILDREN - THERE TRYING TO BREED US OUT" (spelling mistakes intentional).
So therefore, while I don't disagree the Islam has some serious problems as a religion and an ideology, I reject as bigotry and narrow minded hatred the message that the OP originally posted.
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Well, here, in Algeria, prostitution isn't illegal. Many think it is, but the law doesn't incriminate the sex-worker, it incriminates the person who lives off of a sex worker or her handler if she has one. In fact, I think there are still establishments authorized by the State that have been up for more than 50 years or something, but those appear to be very drastic in their internal policy stuff. A lot work for them…
a bit too informative post for my taste, but apparently you never know what you'll learn on HN :)
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You shouldn't be. I'm a Muslim and I've dealt with numerous such individuals painting Muslims as backward and illiterate. Muslims are the scapegoat of this generation, as the Jews, Blacks were before them. Their entire worldview is constructed of an us vs. them ideology rather than understanding that we're fundamentally the same regardless of our ethnicity/faiths/inclinations/etc.
You are being deceptive. Islam explicitly commands its followers to deceive others. Compare the Islamic State to Jews. Compare the Islamic State to blacks. There is no such comparison. This "scapegoat" victim card is a lie. Jews are not decapitating and immolating. Blacks are not decapitating and immolating. Yet Muslims from around the world are leaving their homes to join the Islamic State in their unspeakable evil,…
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> All I can say is that it makes things easier for everybody. Which country is that? The Netherlands, Austria and Germany, for example, all have horrible trafficking problems. In Nevada, the women are ostracised and harrassed by the police at the legal brothels. In New Zealand, the police cannot tell the difference between legal prostitution and illegal pimping. So which country are you in that is doing better than t…
Do you have some numbers+sources? I live in Germany and the official statement from the police seems to be that it is not actually a huge problem.
Also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_Germany links to a US Trafficking in Persons Report 2010. Here are some quotes:
"Ninety percent of identified victims of trafficking for commercial sexual exploitation came from Europe, including 28 percent from Germany ..."
"... approximately one third of identified sex trafficking victims reported that they had agreed initially to engage in prostitution."
"Police estimate that gangs brought around 1,000 Chinese people to Germany over the past decade and forced them to work in restaurants under exploitative conditions."
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Am I the only one puzzled by this comment?
You shouldn't be. I'm a Muslim and I've dealt with numerous such individuals painting Muslims as backward and illiterate. Muslims are the scapegoat of this generation, as the Jews, Blacks were before them. Their entire worldview is constructed of an us vs. them ideology rather than understanding that we're fundamentally the same regardless of our ethnicity/faiths/inclinations/etc.
Are you saying that Arab muslims who come to India marry poor young virgin girls, have sex and then divorce them are fundamentally the same?
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2014/10/13/indias_prostitu...
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You shouldn't be. I'm a Muslim and I've dealt with numerous such individuals painting Muslims as backward and illiterate. Muslims are the scapegoat of this generation, as the Jews, Blacks were before them. Their entire worldview is constructed of an us vs. them ideology rather than understanding that we're fundamentally the same regardless of our ethnicity/faiths/inclinations/etc.
ameen, may I ask how you regard people who call themselves reformers such as Maajid Nawaz https://twitter.com/maajidnawaz and Ayaan Hirsi Ali https://twitter.com/Ayaan ?
Problems like this one, and other that rank as high in crimes against humanity, make me wish we had a global citizenship and effort, that everyone should have the right for safe passage into any place in the world. Global rights of free passage would be a goal for all people under extreme opression and ilegality, from North Korea, ISIS, slavery, sex trafficking, people trafficking. If people could leave where they ar…
Global citizenship requires global government which comes with its own set of problems. What if the majority favored a certain behavior, such as this one? Then it would be globally legal. Maybe it's not globally favored now--that doesn't mean it will always be this way. Compartmentalization is better than globalization. Humans are fallible and often evil. That is not going to change. The best thing to do is compartme…
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ameen, may I ask how you regard people who call themselves reformers such as Maajid Nawaz https://twitter.com/maajidnawaz and Ayaan Hirsi Ali https://twitter.com/Ayaan ?
Can we not pretend that a thread started by a hateful comment about locking an entire culture out of Europe is a good venue for a discussion about religion? Actually: the whole of HN is a bad venue for that discussion.
I agree that HN isn't the forum for this, but surely the best place to rebut such thinking is when it arises? You can hopefully see from my other comments on this thread that I certainly don't condone what the op said..