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Going undercover as a sex worker

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>I live in a country where prostitution is legal and not taken as taboo. I can't think of any country that doesn't take prostitution as taboo. Even in Germany and the Netherlands it is...

Australia? It is legal here. It isn't something people talk about much, but that doesn't mean it is a taboo.

Are the prostitutes in Australia typically poor immigrant women? Wealthy, powerful women with a broad spectrum of choices do not typically choose prostitution.

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>I live in a country where prostitution is legal and not taken as taboo. I can't think of any country that doesn't take prostitution as taboo. Even in Germany and the Netherlands it is...

Australia? It is legal here. It isn't something people talk about much, but that doesn't mean it is a taboo.

it is legal, however we still have problems with trafficking. many women from china or hong kong come out here, then the pimps just take their passports. they can't speak a word of english, so there's not much they can do.

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> That's the difference in your man vs. woman scenario - someone working in a coal mine may not feel like they have much choice but as you say they are agreeing to the work. Of course this is not to say that some men aren't likewise tricked or forced into such jobs but they too are victims. They pull the same tricks on men too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6yoBcEXwmQ#t=3m58s

Indeed; another example would be construction workers in Dubai - I seem to remember an article linked on here a few years ago about that.

Take a look at the horrible slave trade story unfolding now involving Rohingya (men mainly) being trafficked to serve as slave labor aboard Thai fishing boats. Some transit camps were recently discovered near the border with Malaysia containing mass graves.

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Unfortunately, it is not true. In germany prostitution was legalized a few years ago and what mostly happened was a massive increase in it. The situation of prostitutes barely improved and human trafficking went up. But you have to keep in mind that that is also the effect of only one country doing it. What would happen if the whole EU legalized prostitution is a different question.

Well, here, in Algeria, prostitution isn't illegal. Many think it is, but the law doesn't incriminate the sex-worker, it incriminates the person who lives off of a sex worker or her handler if she has one. In fact, I think there are still establishments authorized by the State that have been up for more than 50 years or something, but those appear to be very drastic in their internal policy stuff. A lot work for them…

a bit too informative post for my taste, but apparently you never know what you'll learn on HN :)

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I live in a country where prostitution is legal and not taken as taboo. All I can say is that it makes things easier for everybody. Many use their bodies as a "small business", having their own personal marketing, credit card processor and online clients, increasing and improving their portfolio. Because they have such leverage, they end up being strict on what they'd do and even who their client is. In case somethin…

> All I can say is that it makes things easier for everybody. Which country is that? The Netherlands, Austria and Germany, for example, all have horrible trafficking problems. In Nevada, the women are ostracised and harrassed by the police at the legal brothels. In New Zealand, the police cannot tell the difference between legal prostitution and illegal pimping. So which country are you in that is doing better than t…

> Which country is that? The Netherlands, Austria and Germany, for example, all have horrible trafficking problems.

Well in Germany the main trafficking problems is Africans. They need to work something and because our rotten legal system prohibits them from working for months after they have arrived, the men end up dealing pot and the women on the streets.

And Romanian/Bulgarians... well, the men work on day-jobs for ultra low pay, often illegal, and the women go on the streets. Everything's better than the conditions where they come from.

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Much like with drugs, the best way to reduce human trafficking and abusive prostitution would be to fully legalize and regulate sex work. In countries where prostitution is accepted and legal, it's safer for both the sex workers and the customers, with less risk of disease and abuse. Sex workers are treated humanely and not condemned. Society in general benefits too, through properly paid taxes, lower crime rates, an…

In countries where prostitution is accepted and legal, it's safer for both the sex workers and the customers, with less risk of disease and abuse. Do you know any good studies that back this up. While I certainly want to believe it and it does fit nicely with my own general political/economic narrative of the world, I've yet to find any conclusive evidence for it.

Prostitution is legal in the UK, and has essentially always been legal. Running a brothel and pimping are illegal. A government report estimated "that 6% of prostitutes were 'deceived and forced' into the work".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_United_Kin...

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What is the level of opportunity for these young women (and lets call them women that is what they usually, calling them girls makes them sound like less human and more of a commodity) in the origin countries. Fighting pimps and such is all good but cut off supply then there is no need to deal with pimps. Are hiring laws enforced in these countries?

Cut off supply? When the women get into trafficing from kidnapping... How?

He likely means border control. The USA only has security theater for the middle class victims and none for everyone else, the rest of the world varies greatly in its enforcement level. Also regardless of paper laws, corruption levels at border control vary greatly by country. If you can't get them into a country, you cut off the supply, which cuts off the supply of money to kidnappers and traffickers eventually, etc.

Re: Going undercover as a sex worker

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post #94

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Australia? It is legal here. It isn't something people talk about much, but that doesn't mean it is a taboo.

Are the prostitutes in Australia typically poor immigrant women? Wealthy, powerful women with a broad spectrum of choices do not typically choose prostitution.

> Wealthy, powerful women with a broad spectrum of choices do not typically choose prostitution.

Wealthy, powerful men with a broad spectrum of choices do not typically choose cleaning the toilets at your office.

Re: Going undercover as a sex worker

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Much like with drugs, the best way to reduce human trafficking and abusive prostitution would be to fully legalize and regulate sex work. In countries where prostitution is accepted and legal, it's safer for both the sex workers and the customers, with less risk of disease and abuse. Sex workers are treated humanely and not condemned. Society in general benefits too, through properly paid taxes, lower crime rates, an…

Seems to work well in Switzerland. Every now and then there's a trafficking bust that usually involves Asians that aren't legal workers. Prostitutes have to be able to legally work in Switzerland which means that nearly all of them come from Schengen countries. For the most part it seems to work well, with most of the workers independent and temporary for 30 days at a time.

Pimps are illegal, prostitutes must be legal and independent. Brothels are often integrated in neighborhoods and not confined to red light districts, although there are some areas where there are more brothels, like around the train stations. Brothels are nothing more than a place where the prostitute rents out a room for the night or week - there's no madam or anything like you see in the movies. Prostitutes can't advertise on the street.

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