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Post by mamp »

synaesthesisx wrote: post #55
ghshephard wrote: post #6

The extraordinarily cynical side of me wonders if this is all just a massive co-branding PR exercise to dominate the news cycle with "Taylor Swift", "Apple", "Free Music", "Apple Music." Highly unlikely because it's not the type of underhanded marketing that Apple engages in, but man - All I've been reading about, seeing in my twitter feed, is talk about the 90 Day free Music Trial with Apple coming up. This has been…

It's not like Apple is affiliated with Swift or anything....wait...

My first thought was they did it because they didn't want to rename 'Swift' to 'Drake'.

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Post by bestnameever »

ghshephard wrote: post #54
plorg wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm honestly surprised it's that low. I know the difference is supposed to be that Apple Music accounts will all be 'paying'. But if they're only paying out low-single-digit higher rates than Spotify, I don't see how it's supposed to be meaningfully different than Spotify Premium or Tidal, except that people paying for Spotify/Tidal through iDevices are paying $13/month instead of $10, and $3 is still going to Apple.…

The Major Difference is Apple will not be offering an ongoing free tier to compete against their paid tier. That's got to be attractive to people like Taylor.

The free tier is supported by advertising..Does this not work well for the artists?

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protomyth wrote: post #76
IBM wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The story then changes from "Taylor Swift making sure artists are compensated for their work" to "Taylor Swift wants more money". Apple was never going to pay royalty rates based on people that paid $10 a month for the service on people that were paying nothing, asking that they do would make Taylor Swift look poorly.

The story changes to Apple is still going to short change artists to promote its service. Taylor Swift will look fine as she has incredible fan loyalty and communicates with her "customers" in a way Apple cannot.

Guess you didn't see the reaction to the Tidal unveiling. All those artists have loyal fans as well.

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ghshephard wrote: post #6

The extraordinarily cynical side of me wonders if this is all just a massive co-branding PR exercise to dominate the news cycle with "Taylor Swift", "Apple", "Free Music", "Apple Music." Highly unlikely because it's not the type of underhanded marketing that Apple engages in, but man - All I've been reading about, seeing in my twitter feed, is talk about the 90 Day free Music Trial with Apple coming up. This has been…

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Post by protomyth »

IBM wrote: post #83
protomyth wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The story changes to Apple is still going to short change artists to promote its service. Taylor Swift will look fine as she has incredible fan loyalty and communicates with her "customers" in a way Apple cannot.

Guess you didn't see the reaction to the Tidal unveiling. All those artists have loyal fans as well.

I did and it has nothing to do with this. Tidal has so many problems (e.g. streaming rights to Beyoncé) and relations to other artists that the situations are not similar.

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Post by ghshephard »

bestnameever wrote: post #82
ghshephard wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Major Difference is Apple will not be offering an ongoing free tier to compete against their paid tier. That's got to be attractive to people like Taylor.

The free tier is supported by advertising..Does this not work well for the artists?

The artists hate it - and the return is almost nothing. For example - look at Youtube - you can stream anything you want, including all of Taylor Swifts catalog - zero to no advertising.

I was at a party this weekend with a bunch of 20 somethings here in Singapore - and that's all they used - Nobody even mentioned Spotify - they just logged onto the wireless and added their songs to the queue - it was slick and 100% free (to the user) - and seriously, I don't recall a single ad in 3+ hours.

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Post by flashman »

This just confirms to me what a big deal Taylor Swift is.

Can anyone remember a time Apple reversed a business decision, or promised to fix some kind of technical issue, this quickly? (Critical security flaws notwithstanding.) Certainly not when Steve 'Hold Different' Jobs was still alive.[1]

[1] http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/apple-responds-over-iphon...

Re: “AppleMusic will pay artist for streaming during customer’s free trial period”

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Post by IBM »

protomyth wrote: post #85
IBM wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Guess you didn't see the reaction to the Tidal unveiling. All those artists have loyal fans as well.

I did and it has nothing to do with this. Tidal has so many problems (e.g. streaming rights to Beyoncé) and relations to other artists that the situations are not similar.

The situation is absolutely similar because the outrage was about "rich millionaires asking for more money".

Re: “AppleMusic will pay artist for streaming during customer’s free trial period”

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Post by odiroot »

pasta_2 wrote: post #10

Spotify is truly fucked if Apple is going to pay during the free trial AND pay higher overall royalties. When the negotiations come up again with Spotify, who is already running increasing losses, things will just get worse.

No, they are not. Not everyone lives in Apple bubble. Especially outside of North America.

Re: “AppleMusic will pay artist for streaming during customer’s free trial period”

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Post by protomyth »

IBM wrote: post #88
protomyth wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did and it has nothing to do with this. Tidal has so many problems (e.g. streaming rights to Beyoncé) and relations to other artists that the situations are not similar.

The situation is absolutely similar because the outrage was about "rich millionaires asking for more money".

No one at Tidal said anything about Indy artists.
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