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Re: Say Hello to Nest Cam

#43

This is definitely a product there's a need for, but the creepy component is there for sure. Fortunately, there are cameras that run their own servers, without a cloud component. Plus, it's easy to firewall everything going in/out of their IP and put them behind a reverse proxy. I mean easy for me, not the general public.

What is the need? I can only think of reasons it might be 'nice to have' if someone was giving me it for free - and even then I would think twice. What are the real broad needs it's solving for a lot of people? (serious question)

I like to monitor my house and yard when I'm not there, so I can see what's going on, if the dog is fine, if someone's in, etc.

Re: Say Hello to Nest Cam

#44
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It even has a mic. IP cameras in my house recording to in-house server = OK IP cameras uploading data to external "cloud" servers I don't own = do not want

We need a startup to build alternatives to nest products in the spirit of what lima [1] is as an alternative to dropbox & google drive. [1] https://meetlima.com/

Do we? Nest Cam alternatives already exist - in the form of IP cameras and DVRs. Making it easier to setup one would be a good thing though.

Re: Say Hello to Nest Cam

#45
Having bootstrapped Google seems unwilling to switch to a business model not predicated on storing personal/private user data. What's up with that?

This business model _in the long run_ strikes me as untenable. Initially I thought that connecting search terms to ads was a viable model. Bootstrap with that, and sell software and hardware. I hate to say it but I think Apple's model is best. You get software tailored to your platform. Android and ChromeOS should cost a bit of money the same way Windows does. It was better when Apple charged 20/25 dollars or euros because it at least acknowledges that the software costs _something_. Microsoft has started making hardware.

Or we should be paying for support. Basically, we should be paying somewhere in the software chain. You know? As software developers we should be encouraging people to not see bits when encoded as information (be they source, binary data (songs, movies), binary code) as free.

What we need is an open-source Apple. I've been saying it for a while. You buy a nice piece of hardware (phone, laptop, desktop, server) and you get an open OS with it that works with the hardware out of the box. Crucially it comes with email software (and accounts) that are secure and private and lets you use your own domain. Social media and audio/video/messaging software needs to become federated ASAP. I know we have XMPP, how do we _force_ all comms/messaging platforms to support a minimum XMPP level?

Re: Say Hello to Nest Cam

#46
post #39

I'd buy this for my parents. Been looking for a software company that will do something like this instead of all the other crap that's out there. You won't believe the low quality crap my dad has been asking me to take a look at for their house. If people got alternatives (decent software startups/companies), please post them :)

That way my first reaction.

My grandparents are very worried because of all the burglaries in their neighborhood. I know that cameras do not add security but they make them feel saver. This camera looks like the first simple solution which stores the records online and dont need any maintenance.

If someone got an alternative. Post it please.

Re: Say Hello to Nest Cam

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the need? I can only think of reasons it might be 'nice to have' if someone was giving me it for free - and even then I would think twice. What are the real broad needs it's solving for a lot of people? (serious question)

I like to monitor my house and yard when I'm not there, so I can see what's going on, if the dog is fine, if someone's in, etc.

Interesting but in all the years you haven't been able to monitor it has it been a problem not knowing who is home? Has your dog ever not been fine? It sounds like this product gives you information you want but don't actually need. Kind of one of those things you keep around in case of an emergency situation that never happens (or if it does the product doesn't really make any difference in the outcome).

Re: Say Hello to Nest Cam

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like to monitor my house and yard when I'm not there, so I can see what's going on, if the dog is fine, if someone's in, etc.

Interesting but in all the years you haven't been able to monitor it has it been a problem not knowing who is home? Has your dog ever not been fine? It sounds like this product gives you information you want but don't actually need. Kind of one of those things you keep around in case of an emergency situation that never happens (or if it does the product doesn't really make any difference in the outcome).

No, but I've never needed to use my backups either.

Re: Say Hello to Nest Cam

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post #39

I'd buy this for my parents. Been looking for a software company that will do something like this instead of all the other crap that's out there. You won't believe the low quality crap my dad has been asking me to take a look at for their house. If people got alternatives (decent software startups/companies), please post them :)

Check out Homeboy - https://www.homeboy.com

- completely cordless (battery powered, rechargeable, lasts up to 3 months on a charge)

- not continuously recording video but clip based, armed like a security alarm, video recordings are triggered by infrared motion sensor

- intelligent automatic arm/disarm based on smartphone geofences

- request a clip capture any time for peace of mind

Disclaimer: I work at Homeboy :) We've just made our second batch of cameras so they're ready for shipping very soon!

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