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Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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For an... interesting take on all of this, there's always /r/conspiracy: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/39ddf1/rfatpeop...

The sidebar image made me chuckle;as I read about the CEOs statement in the news about making reddit "a safe place" I had a question immediately pop up in my mind. "What's the safest place on Earth? North Korea."

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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While that's likely part of it, that's not the entirety of things. To be fair, I would wager that fatpeoplehate had its share of trolls, but I would definitely believe that the vast majority of its denizens were former fat people, and very frustrated at the obesity epidemic in the United States. Frustration leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. You know the rest. I speak here from some experience. Several members of m…

>There are growing social movements that promote obesity as a way of life. This is simply insane. Nobody would promote anorexia as positive, or smoking, or heroin. I think FPH got created as a counter culture to these movements. >I do not want to live in a society where this is accepted or encouraged. While I don't think that mocking fat people will solve the problem, I can understand how that particular community co…

"Rather than focusing on education and knowledge they resorted to insults and mockery."

I just wanted to point how that comedy is as if not more effective than education. Education through comedy is even more-so. This is likely a healthier outlet than what they could be doing (given mockery was their first choice of action). Possibly the most peaceful option for this type of community... Is vandalism, assault or other crimes now further up on the to-do list? I suppose we might find out now since censorship has created the opportunity.

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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Because it was spilling out into other subreddits. I had FPH on a filter, but you could go to any other post with a photo of someone who was overweight and there'd be an upvoted comment calling them a "hambeast".

I don't think banning a subreddit will solve the problem os assholes on the internet. People have been saying hurtful things before keyboards were a thing.

Pointing out that something doesn't solve anything is no argument against it. I don't think jogging will make me live forever, but I still do it.

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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I think banning the fatpeoplehate subreddit wouldn't have gone over so badly if it wasn't for the fact that Ellen Pao was already kind of hated on the site for constantly banning and deleting anything disagreeing with her viewpoint about her law suit. Even political cartoons with her driving the tank and the reddit alien with a down vote in front were getting deleted, which were quite funny and appropriate, since she…

Do you have any source that gives more detail about a post of "editorial cartoon" being deleted? That does seem an odd example. Editorial cartoons are a pretty fundamental part of journalism. What if Tony Blair could delete news of the world editorial cartoons? Seems to cross a line and, all due respect, until I saw proof that a delete happened, I'd be more likely to believe it was a histrionic "just-so-story" I mean…

I don't know if it's reasonable or not but it is not happening. Every time it is subreddit moderators removing stuff that violates their own rules. Then the second it goes down everybody blames Pao automatically. Just like today.

These people somehow seem to miss the dozens of huge threads that aren't removed that she could delete with a couple clicks. She could search her name every night and delete everything in a few minutes. Yet instead she randomly deletes a thread here and there? Makes no logical sense.

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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A group? To my understanding, "SJW" is a pejorative naming from the other side of the scale.

Apparently you're right. I have seen instances of members of this group self labelling as an "SJW" though.

In practice, when someone refers to themselves as an SJW they mean they are the sort of person who's likely to be labeled that way. Similar to "bleeding heart liberal" a generation ago, I guess.

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This article dramatically understates the magnitude of the shitstorm that is currently unfolding. Check out http://www.reddit.com/r/all/ if you feel like seeing all the ugliness. (And if anyone has any doubts that this is ultimately about harassment, count how many of the posts on the front page (and their comments) are made up of personal attacks and/or obscenities targeted at CEO Ellen Pao.) I don't fault the Reddi…

I never understood why reddit was so lenient with its community. There are so many racists and hateful subreddits, that attract more and more people like that, that makes the community as a whole worse. I'm really glad that moderation actions like that are taken, and I'm sad that people reply to that by "harassing" the CEO... Hopefully such people will get frustrated by such events and will eventually leave reddit. N…

> I never understood why reddit was so lenient with its community

> do like me: unsubscribe from most subreddits and suscribe to smaller subreddits with active moderators.

Answered your own question. Because people can do that and not have to deal with that crap. reddit is many things to many people. Some people enjoy that stuff and reddit wants as many people as possible on the platform. The site was also founded with free speech and an open platform as something they believed in. And they've stayed true to that.

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Used to; that's what's changing.

No, that part is not changing. What is changing is more rules getting added. They still don't remove anything that doesn't violate the rules. The only new rule is no harassment.

Adding more rules counts as a change.

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Internet hate can often turn into real life hate. Witness: SWATing, emails to employers, ordering pizzas as a "joke". Not to mention, the number of death threats and threats of sexual violence is climbing at an alarming rate, especially for women and PoC. I have no idea why people think it's socially acceptable to say things on the internet to people that you wouldn't say to them IRL in front of a police officer.

> Internet hate can often turn into real life hate > I have no idea why people think it's socially acceptable to say things on the internet to people that you wouldn't say to them IRL in front of a police officer. Whoa. Incredibly hypocritical of you to lecture others on hate, harassment and tone policing. You have routinely said awful things online and harassed people. - You tell people to "set themselves on fire",…

She isn't harassing anyone. When a woman suggests something horribly violent "set yourself on fire" its cute and funny and empowering. Its only threatening and harassment if the source is male.

Re: Reddit Bans Five Communities In New Anti-Harassment Campaign

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It really depends where you look and what subreddits you subscribe to. Opening reddit this morning looked exactly the same to me as any other day, except for one thread because I'm subscribed to /r/subredditdrama.

Yeah, as bad as /r/all has been (though, I have to admit, I've been amused by the drama), my frontpage looks the same as any other day.

You could leave all the users behind and come visit http://skimfeed.com :)

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I've been on reddit for 8 years, and lurked before that. The top submissions and comments have always, and consistently, been standard-issue PC/liberal in their overall view.

In the years since SJW turned from a meaningful term into a catch-all for anyone who advocates for social justice in any way other than qualifying lip service[1], the general reddit crowd has noticeably moved away from standard-issue PC/liberal to anglo-centric liberal. Systemic issues of injustice are portrayed as primarily matters of self-fulfilling prophecy. The protestant work ethic is heavily espoused for minori…

> The protestant work ethic is heavily espoused for minorities

What do you mean here? Just looking for an explanation...

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