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How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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Mealsquares is probably healthier, but it's also much more expensive at $20 for 2,000 calories, vs $9 for Soylent. They're priced like energy bars (Clif bars, probars etc.).

I think it is $6 per 2000 calories. Can you redo the math?

It's $15/2000 cal for 30 squares or $17.86 for 7 (the sample pack).

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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For Europeans wanting to try it, check out Joylent[1] as well, a Soylent fork based in Netherlands. They do a few different tastes too (vanilla, strawberry, banana, chocolate and soon mango). [1] https://joylent.eu

Do they ship to the U.S. by chance? Their quantities per order look much more approachable than Soylent's.

Yeah, looks like they ship internationally: https://www.joylent.eu/shipping-costs

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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For discussion: instead of EBT/food-stamps, how about a Soylent subscription? Everything a body needs, relatively inexpensive, no allegations of abuse (lobster, cigarettes, junk food).

Captive audiences create bad incentives. As soon as the users don't have a choice, the supplier no longer has an incentive to maintain quality.

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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I've been making my own "Soylent" for many years for much less money.

8oz skim milk

1/2 cup oats

25g milk protein isolate

1 banana

1 tbsp natural peanut butter (or almond butter)

Dash of good cinnamon

Multivitamin

Takes only a few minutes to make, tastes better than Soylent and is cheaper.

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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I don't understand the saturated fat hate. Cultures have existed that have gotten 50% or higher of their total calories from nearly pure animal fat sources. Eskimos (or is the politically correct term Inuit or something else now?) lived on blubber, and only started experiencing the whole heart disease/obesity epidemic when switched to a more "conventional" grain-heavy diet. I wouldn't trust the USDA to tell me what t…

...you mean the people that lived 10+ years less than everyone else, even in the modern era? That is the lifestyle you want to emulate? http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/12/18/inuit_life_exp... Okay. Enjoy.

Did you even read the article that you linked? It's not a great article, but the reasons listed therein have nothing to do with diet.

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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> Surely not every meal you eat is such a delight. An awful lot of food is just calorie stuffing to maintain energy. It is? Not really for me and people I know. You can still make calorie stuffing enjoyable. Even if I'm alone I can whip up a 10 minute meal that tastes damn nice compared to what Soylent is supposed to taste like. E.g. heat a wok with a bit of oil, dump in a package of pre sliced wok vegetables and a h…

So you're around your ingredients, kitchen and cooking equipment 3 meals a day and are able to prepare a variety of delightful, completely nutritious and balanced meals from scratch each of those meals, 7 days a week, 365 days a year? If not, do you stay within driving distance from your home so you can go there to do this? Then, I envy your meals, but I don't envy the leash you have on your life. Personally, I trave…

I think the standard solution to that problem is to make food ahead of time (maybe large batches) and then pack a lunchbox?

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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> Surely not every meal you eat is such a delight. An awful lot of food is just calorie stuffing to maintain energy. It is? Not really for me and people I know. You can still make calorie stuffing enjoyable. Even if I'm alone I can whip up a 10 minute meal that tastes damn nice compared to what Soylent is supposed to taste like. E.g. heat a wok with a bit of oil, dump in a package of pre sliced wok vegetables and a h…

So you're around your ingredients, kitchen and cooking equipment 3 meals a day and are able to prepare a variety of delightful, completely nutritious and balanced meals from scratch each of those meals, 7 days a week, 365 days a year? If not, do you stay within driving distance from your home so you can go there to do this? Then, I envy your meals, but I don't envy the leash you have on your life. Personally, I trave…

I think you're missing the enjoyment part. I'd rather have a chicken sandwich or a salad from Wendy's than Soylent. As would most people I suspect. It's possible the grilled chicken or salad isn't actually better for me than the Soylent, but it isn't THAT bad, and it tastes so much better.

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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You're right, I can't come up with a single meal that is as nutritious and balanced as one serving of Soylent. The thing is that unlike with Soylent you're not eating the exact same meal every time. If there's one thing we've learned the last couple of years it's that a lot of food science is bogus, and that we really don't know much about nutrition. The safe thing to do is to eat a large variety of foods. Is it safe…

> Is it healthier than eating a different reasonably healthy meal every day? Unlikely. run the numbers! don't guess! I also agree that if you're going to eat food, eat a wide variety of stuffs. It's about the only way to accumulate the best possible nutrition, and it keeps it from getting boring. I personally prefer lots of variety in food, but I really want to spend the time to enjoy it when I sit down to eat it. >…

>run the numbers! don't guess!

you can't just run numbers. none of the daily recommended numbers tell us what will happen when you eat the stuff for 100% of your meals for 10 or 20 years. On the other hand, eating a variety of normal has been shown over thousands of years to be mostly reasonable. Soylent may or may not be fine and even better for people, but numbers in a chart simply can't possibly tell us that.

>It tastes "meh". But so do most things.

I think you must have been eating the wrong things. I enjoy pretty much everything I ever eat (and avoid things that I don't like to eat) while sticking as much as possible to "healthy" foods. Frankly I think eating is one of the most enjoyable activities in life, IMO.

Now that being said, I can still see a reasonable argument for using soylent for maybe 1 meal a day, likely breakfast as a time saver. I can't even remotely imagine replacing all meals with it.

Re: How Soylent Ships a Trillion Calories per Month

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The value prop that people will save money is kind of funny to me. My diet: Breakfast: Oatmeal, honey, cinnamon $0.20 Lunch: Large Salad(spinach, carrot, tomato, cucumber, mushroom, bell pepper, sometimes almonds) $2.50 Dinner: Steamed Veggies and Seared Tilapia (kale, carrot, tomato, capers, tilapia) $3.50 If people just budged properly they would be fine. That being said, I'm curious to try soylent and have purchas…

I have Soylent for around 40% of meals. I know it's more expensive than my regular diet, but it's quick and healthy food. Of course you can argue that your meals are very low effort, but even just grocery shopping and planning meals is something I'm happy I don't have to do now. It makes my life simpler and more enjoyable and that's worth the price to me.

I haven't seen any compelling evidence that Soylent is healthy, given that there are not even agreed upon RDA for most nutrients or macro nutrients.
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