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Looking Forward: Support for Secure Shell

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Re: Looking Forward: Support for Secure Shell

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> OpenGL runs fine on Windows and is less relevant now than ever thanks to Metal and DirectX 12, etc. I have to express strong disagreement with this entire sentence. OpenGL on Windows desktop continues to suffer greatly from Microsoft's lack of support. OpenGL is more relevant now than ever before due to the dominance of OpenGL ES on mobile and web. Microsoft is starting to support it themselves with WebGL in IE11 a…

> OpenGL on Windows desktop continues to suffer greatly from Microsoft's lack of support In what way? I write graphics code for a living and from what I've seen opengl is basically fine on windows. They could do more, sure, but I never felt like they were getting in the way. I have mixed feelings on the directx thing. In principle I'm not a fan of directx, but in terms of API quality it's vastly better than opengl. A…

> They could do more, sure, but I never felt like they were getting in the way.

If you would try to ship OpenGL game you'll find out that Windows 8+ shipped with crippled AMD Legacy driver (HD2XXX-4XXX) that don't have OpenGL support in it and can't be really replaced using AMD Catalyst installer until user manually install new driver via Device Manager using extremely tricky way.

There was also crippled Intel drivers without GL support, but as far as I aware new drivers are shipped with GL already.

Re: Looking Forward: Support for Secure Shell

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For all Balmer's thing of dancing on a stage and chanting "developers", there was no point under Gates or he at which Microsoft felt like a pro-developer company. That has completely changed in the last eighteen months. Each time I think "wouldn't it be cool if" I'm finding a few weeks later that someone at Microsoft is well ahead of me. How much easier it will be to ship my sucky roguelikes to Windows users in this…

> Wishlist: tmux, emacs, vi, netcat, shell option for vi-mode, rc-file with preferences, ncurses library, something simpler than curses, zip and unzip.

First, let's have a copy tool with delta-sync support. I can't believe I have to use a cygwin-based rsync to quickly update my backups throughout the day (currently: shut down Virtualbox dev VM, rsync changes, start VM).

I understand the MS way to do it is DSFR, but for a single developer workstation that's overkill.

Re: Looking Forward: Support for Secure Shell

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How can two lines of code be earning you shit tons of cash? Can you show it if you swapped out specific details with generic placeholders (which page you're parsing, which endpoint you're hitting)?

It merely exploits some fundamental differences on how humans operate between two markets and turns that into real-time information for me on which I can make trade decisions. This isn't stocks, shares, futures etc for ref either. I don't want to say any more nor post any code as it's unique and a good earner at the moment.

> It merely exploits some fundamental differences on how humans operate between two markets and turns that into real-time information for me on which I can make trade decisions.

Now that's teasing ;)

Re: Looking Forward: Support for Secure Shell

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I've been historically what can be described a Microsoft hater and I have to tell you, missing official SSH support has never been a hate generator and insinuating otherwise is insulting. The first reason for which I have historically hated Microsoft is because of how they fought open standards. I can't believe that Microsoft changed in any meaningful way when I can't get a Lumia phone or Outlook to work with CalDAV…

CalDAV and CardDAV are supported on Windows Phone 8 since GDR2 as the method to sync Gmail accounts. OneDrive supports ODF via Office Online. OpenGL runs fine on Windows and is less relevant now than ever thanks to Metal and DirectX 12, etc. Oh and the new Outlook app for iOS and Android also has broad support for competitors and open standards. Sure, it's through the cloud, but it works. If you want to punish compan…

CalDAV and CardDAV are not supported on Windows Phone 8, as I'm not talking about Gmail accounts. Office Online supports ODF because they were forced to, but they continue to lobby against it. The new Outlook app for Android is a privacy invading and buggy piece of shit.

And the "grandma" argument falls flat on its face when you've got an app store filled with scams, mallware and trademark violations. It's also a funny argument given that platforms other than Windows haven't suffered from viruses as much. One could say that if Windows wouldn't exist, we wouldn't have this argument in the first place.

Re: Looking Forward: Support for Secure Shell

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OH THANK GOD. I'm using Ansible to manage Windows, and today that means fooling around with WinRM. For example, that involved adding Kerberos support to Ansible so that it could authenticate against Windows domain accounts, because those are authed differently from local machine accounts. Assuming the project succeeds this time around, it's going to be way easier to incorporate Windows servers into Unix-centric manag…

Is there any noise about being able to use Windows as an Ansible host? I like Ansible far more than the alternatives, but I can't make developers I work with keep a Linux VM running just to run Ansible to provision a development VM. That would be... crazy.

Re: Looking Forward: Support for Secure Shell

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>Wishlist: tmux, emacs, vi, netcat, shell option for vi-mode, rc-file with preferences, ncurses library, something simpler than curses, zip and unzip No thankyou. I can certainly understand including SSH support, but I don't want what is pretty much the only remaining viable non-Unix platform to start bundling horribly dated and clunky Unix-like commands and bloated GNU tools.

Couldn't agree more. As a die hard Unix guy and ex Slashdot-esque zealot (colloquially a bit of a twat). Yet I'm knocking out PowerShell all the time now and dread having to log into the pile of CentOS kit I have lying around. It is arcane. Even after 15 years I spend most of my time in the manpages or working out another damn config format. Literally did a two liner to scrape a web page, parse it and call a REST end…

Power shell is ok but MS DOS terminal needs an update: it has several limitations about fonts, encoding and missing libs that make it the worst terminal experience imho.

Ah also POSIX compliance could simplify the life of those who develop on Windows. I tryed to develop on Windows for many years, I tryed hard but you are always missing some feature that on Unix is basic.

Re: Looking Forward: Support for Secure Shell

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I'm not even a Powershell fan, I'm just not especially fond of Unix-likes, which feel like a local maximum that has turned into an unchangable standard. I think Unix-like environments feel dated, clunky and there's a tendancy for it to result in permanent bloat, stagnation and a web of interdependencies. I understand that lots of people are familiar with Unix-like tools and their many idiosyncrasies and like to be ab…

I disagree. 1. Unix-like environments are (or rather were before systemd) kinda similar and once you drop a shell - good to go. Even with powershell Microsoft have gone down the route of version/feature pinning. If you plan to maintain at least Windows 7/Server 2003 in your scripts - well, powershell 2 is the highest you can aim, bye bye new features, welcome bloat. Red Hat while shipping old versions still backports…

This isn't the case. WMF is available separately. I just rolled our WMF4 over all our kit and we have PS4 everywhere now including win7 and 2008.

Re: Looking Forward: Support for Secure Shell

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Couldn't agree more. As a die hard Unix guy and ex Slashdot-esque zealot (colloquially a bit of a twat). Yet I'm knocking out PowerShell all the time now and dread having to log into the pile of CentOS kit I have lying around. It is arcane. Even after 15 years I spend most of my time in the manpages or working out another damn config format. Literally did a two liner to scrape a web page, parse it and call a REST end…

Power shell is ok but MS DOS terminal needs an update: it has several limitations about fonts, encoding and missing libs that make it the worst terminal experience imho. Ah also POSIX compliance could simplify the life of those who develop on Windows. I tryed to develop on Windows for many years, I tryed hard but you are always missing some feature that on Unix is basic.

For the love of... just let me drag it wider than an old vt110 terminal!

Re: Looking Forward: Support for Secure Shell

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I've been historically what can be described a Microsoft hater and I have to tell you, missing official SSH support has never been a hate generator and insinuating otherwise is insulting. The first reason for which I have historically hated Microsoft is because of how they fought open standards. I can't believe that Microsoft changed in any meaningful way when I can't get a Lumia phone or Outlook to work with CalDAV…

If lawsuits and not supporting something you like makes you dislike a company, I'd guess that almost all corporations would be on your 'hate' list. My dislike of MS is quite simple. I simply don't like their products. That doesn't mean I automatically love OSX or Linux. IMO OSX is a mediocre product with a polished user experience and Linux as a desktop is just broken. Unfortunately, I can't say there is a single OS…

That's the popularity argument. Yes, companies like Apple or Oracle are on my hate list.

I like how whenever we bring up this popularity argument, we are in essence talking only about 2 or 3 companies, the big ones. Here's another picture: http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/about-us/members/

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