Why firewalls won’t matter in a few years
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Why firewalls won’t matter in a few years
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#2I outlined some of these problems in my "Critique of Modern Network Design" post: https://medium.com/@sargun/a-critique-of-network-design-ff85...
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#3Because security researchers need to build their business, they will find vulnerabilties and disclose them, no matter what. The biggest splashes in the past year were Heartbleed and Shellshock. Correct me if I'm wrong, but neither were driven by bug bounties.
Bug bounties are a PR problem, but they are a smaller PR problem than a zero-day disclosure that results in massive exploits. The point is get the company slightly ahead of the PR curve, not to kill disclosure (which would be impossible).
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#4Host and edge / stub firewalls with strong orchestration will be far more pervasive along with lots of network traffic auditing and anomaly detection that happens in near real-time, but out of the line of fire (out of band).
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#6> In the questions at the end, he points out the bug bounties are a PR Problem. When you pay a bug bounty and fix, the researcher needs to shutup instead of going public about the vulnerability. Of course, the researcher needs the publicity to build a business & credibility. So bug bounties are likely to die. Because security researchers need to build their business, they will find vulnerabilties and disclose them, n…
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#7> In the questions at the end, he points out the bug bounties are a PR Problem. When you pay a bug bounty and fix, the researcher needs to shutup instead of going public about the vulnerability. Of course, the researcher needs the publicity to build a business & credibility. So bug bounties are likely to die. Because security researchers need to build their business, they will find vulnerabilties and disclose them, n…
The turnaround time for most projects I've reported to was less than a week.
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#8IoT devices generally have utterly terrible security, and you'll not want them public exposed. I can envisage a place for a house wide firewall of somesort, to stop publicly addressable devices being knocked offline, or exploited by persons unknown.
So there will be a need for a "virtual front door" something that home router should really do, but fails utterly in most cases.
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#9I'd like to counter, IoT will probably change this view. (however the points raised are still valid.) IoT devices generally have utterly terrible security, and you'll not want them public exposed. I can envisage a place for a house wide firewall of somesort, to stop publicly addressable devices being knocked offline, or exploited by persons unknown. So there will be a need for a "virtual front door" something that ho…
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#10So, the above was the minimum that NSA et al would consider secure against adversaries on their level. Every security-critical component was carefully spec'd, implementation mapped against spec 1-to-1, analyzed for covert channels, pen-tested, and even generated on-site. Commercial industry, aiming at max profit and time to market, just shipped stuff with security features but not assurance. Broke every rule in the field. Came up with firewalls (knockoff of guards), AV, and so on to counter minor tactics. Of course that didn't work as it doesn't solve the central security problem: making sure all states or flows in the system correspond to a security policy.
The best route is to put security in the end-point along with E-like tools for distributed applications and hardware acceleration of difficult parts. Within your trust domain, you just check data types and use that for information flow control (aka security). Outside trust domain, you do input validation and checks before assigning types. The hardware will be like crash-safe.org or CHERI processor in that it handles the rest. A security-aware, I/O offload engine will help too. Fixing the root problem along with a unified model (capability-based, distributed) will make most security problems go away. At that point, firewalls will be about keeping out the riff raff and preventing DOS attacks.