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Firefox tracking protection decreases page load time by 44%

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Re: Firefox tracking protection decreases page load time by 44%

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Post by wlesieutre »

eps wrote: post #33
chippy wrote: post #5

"To enable Tracking Protection in Firefox 35 and later, visit about:config and set privacy.trackingprotection.enabled to true" Edits - This quote from the article is interesting, especially considering Google the worlds biggest advertising industry company also has a browser. "That Firefox is first and foremost a user-agent, not an industry-agent"

Way to butcher the quote. In full it has nearly the opposite meaning and it's far more intriguing - I believe that Mozilla can make progress in privacy, but leadership needs to recognize that current advertising practices that enable "free" content are in direct conflict with security, privacy, stability, and performance concerns -- and that Firefox is first and foremost a user-agent, not an industry-agent.

I don't see how that's opposite

Re: Firefox tracking protection decreases page load time by 44%

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Post by sp332 »

chimeracoder wrote: post #96
kibwen wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just last week I opted in to Firefox's multiprocess branch, and one of my biggest complaints is that this breaks pretty much every extension. I eagerly welcome this if it can replace Ghostery.

Out of curiosity, which extensions are broken for you? I've been running multiprocess Firefox as well, and every extension that I use regularly still works. The only exception was Vimperator, so I had to write my own extension to give Vim keybindings[0], since none of the others support e10s. I'm curious which extensions have given you trouble, since Ghostery, NoScript, and uBlock all work for me (at least for the mo…

http://arewee10syet.com/ Ad blockers, password managers, and download helpers seem to be the most commonly broken.

Re: Firefox tracking protection decreases page load time by 44%

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Post by hrjet »

As a user of NoScript + Firefox and as a developer of a browser with an express goal of "privacy by default"[1], I am thrilled to see this getting more attention. The more people use privacy features, the more will website developers ensure that their products degrade gracefully when, for example, third-party scripts are disabled. Which will enable even more users to migrate towards a "privacy by default" configuration. And hopefully, this will be a positive feedback cycle.

1: https://gngr.info/doc/introduction.html

Re: Firefox tracking protection decreases page load time by 44%

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Post by jakeogh »

arh68 wrote: post #104

Is this more or is it less effective than a large /etc/hosts blacklist? It doesn't seem to be doing anything special like the Privacy Badger. The only relevant sections in the paper I saw were We implement an API based on Google Safe Browsing, a mechanism for efficient URL-based blocklist updates and lookups [9]. We use a subset of approximately 1500 domains from Disconnect’s privacy-oriented blocklist to identify th…

This will generate a /etc/hosts or /etc/dnsmasq.conf from the two common lists: https://github.com/jakeogh/dnsmasq-blacklist

Re: Firefox tracking protection decreases page load time by 44%

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Post by ams6110 »

bobajeff wrote: post #15

I would love for Mozilla to find other means of funding online content besides advertising. In either case I'd love to see them take a hard stance on privacy and against tracking. They should block trackers that have no effect on website features and restrict and monitor the ones that do effect features. ...and this is another reason Mozilla needs to have their own search engine. They could have much greater influenc…

There is already a privacy respecting search engine, DuckDuckGo

Re: Firefox tracking protection decreases page load time by 44%

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Post by ams6110 »

Nemcue wrote: post #29
click170 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMO DuckDuckGo is the obvious choice of who to partner with. DDG already focuses on privacy as a defining feature, its why I use then as my primary search engine. Seems like a win win for both Mozilla and DDG.

Unfortunately they lack a lot of the features that make Google useful. Like limiting by when the page appeared.

Almost nobody uses those features, useful though they may be.

Re: Firefox tracking protection decreases page load time by 44%

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Post by manigandham »

ahuth wrote: post #109
spydum wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

wait, what? How does custom tailored ads based on your usage patterns harm you? there is an awful lot of adtech hate because its easy to see how poorly implemented adtech can hinder performance, but i dont see how it is malicious in nature.

The fact that an ad is custom tailored to you is concerning in and of itself...

but people whine when they see ads that are not to their interests either. there is no way to win.

Re: Firefox tracking protection decreases page load time by 44%

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Post by rossjudson »

bobajeff wrote: post #15

I would love for Mozilla to find other means of funding online content besides advertising. In either case I'd love to see them take a hard stance on privacy and against tracking. They should block trackers that have no effect on website features and restrict and monitor the ones that do effect features. ...and this is another reason Mozilla needs to have their own search engine. They could have much greater influenc…

What is this "content" you speak of, that must be funded through advertising? I checked the internet, and have been able to find very little worthwhile ad-supported content.

Re: Firefox tracking protection decreases page load time by 44%

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Post by manigandham »

higherpurpose wrote: post #18

> Advertising does not make content free. It merely externalizes the costs in a way that incentivizes malicious or incompetent players to build things like Superfish, infect 1 in 20 machines with ad injection malware, and create sites that require unsafe plugins and take twice as many resources to load, quite expensive in terms of bandwidth, power, and stability. That's a good point. Reminds me of "coal energy is che…

What harm is targeting causing?

Users constantly complain that ads are not relevant, so it's either/or...

Re: Firefox tracking protection decreases page load time by 44%

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Post by paulryanrogers »

wlesieutre wrote: post #111
eps wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Way to butcher the quote. In full it has nearly the opposite meaning and it's far more intriguing - I believe that Mozilla can make progress in privacy, but leadership needs to recognize that current advertising practices that enable "free" content are in direct conflict with security, privacy, stability, and performance concerns -- and that Firefox is first and foremost a user-agent, not an industry-agent.

I don't see how that's opposite

Conflict arises because content isn't truly free. Someone pays of their free time or gets paid to produce by advertising or subscribers. Tools that deliver the content while bypassing payment will drive payment elsewhere or erode the incentive to produce.
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