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Re: Meat – A free self-hosted Git collaboration platform

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Post by Kivlov84 »

stonogo wrote: post #31
daveloyall wrote: post #4

Proprietary license, no source. https://getmeat.io/license

Not just a proprietary license: a license written by someone who doesn't understand how licenses should be written. IF YOU DO NOT OWN THE SOFTWARE, THEN DO NOT DOWNLOAD, INSTALL, COPY OR USE THE SOFTWARE. vs You further acknowledge that title and full ownership rights to the Software will remain the exclusive property of BigHit and/or its suppliers, There are all kinds of other bush-league errors and naive contradict…

Hi guys, Alexander from Meat! over here.

Thanks for expressing your concern, it's totally understandable and we appreciate that.

Now, to clear things up: we're a team of 10 and we spent an entire year on developing Meat!, day in, day out. To be honest, the license was our least concern, we just wanted to give you software that wouldn't be just another GitLab clone (hi there GitLab folks!) and we didn't devote the license the attention it required. Sorry about that, we're going to give it a closer look once we get some sleep this weekend.

Anyway, if there's enough response from the community for Open Source - then we'll do Meat! Open Source. We've never had any problems with that and we never will. Just let us know.

We're going live next week and you'll be able to evaluate the software for yourself. Your feedback will be most welcomed.

Cheers, Alex and the Team at Meat!

Re: Meat – A free self-hosted Git collaboration platform

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Post by Kivlov84 »

badmadrad wrote: post #41
daveloyall wrote: post #4

Proprietary license, no source. https://getmeat.io/license

I love their Nigerian email scam-like address: BigHit 5 LONDON ROAD, LONDON, SW17 9JR, UNITED KINDOM

badmadrad, if we did it Nigerian style, the address would be written in a much fancier font :)

Re: Meat – A free self-hosted Git collaboration platform

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Post by Kivlov84 »

jedrek wrote: post #34
stonogo wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not just a proprietary license: a license written by someone who doesn't understand how licenses should be written. IF YOU DO NOT OWN THE SOFTWARE, THEN DO NOT DOWNLOAD, INSTALL, COPY OR USE THE SOFTWARE. vs You further acknowledge that title and full ownership rights to the Software will remain the exclusive property of BigHit and/or its suppliers, There are all kinds of other bush-league errors and naive contradict…

So I can't download the software? Cool, I won't.

jędrek, możesz :)

Re: Meat – A free self-hosted Git collaboration platform

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Post by Kivlov84 »

numberwhun wrote: post #37

I agree with all of the others that the licensing on this product is wonky. In fact, the EULA is between the person who download it..... and a music industry company? (BigHit Management Ltd.) Um, no. I don't think so. Big Hit can keep its software. I will keep my options open only to software that is more in tune and in line with the FOSS belief.

numberwhun, please read our response under the first comment at the top. We're definitely not a music industry company, in fact we're far from any big industry :)

Alex from Meat!

Re: Meat – A free self-hosted Git collaboration platform

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Post by sytse »

SunShiranui wrote: post #38
sytse wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GitLab CEO here, I would love to know what kind of heavy is the problem you're experiencing, hard to setup? hard to upgrade? cpu/ram/disk usage? too many features?

I've been thinking about buying a Raspberry Pi 2 to run Gitlab on it. Do you think it is feasible or will the performance be too bad for normal use? I'll be hosting about 2-3 repos with 4 users on it.

Thanks for considering GitLab. That will work, please see https://about.gitlab.com/2015/04/21/gitlab-on-raspberry-pi-2... for more information.

Re: Meat – A free self-hosted Git collaboration platform

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Post by stonogo »

Kivlov84 wrote: post #42
stonogo wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not just a proprietary license: a license written by someone who doesn't understand how licenses should be written. IF YOU DO NOT OWN THE SOFTWARE, THEN DO NOT DOWNLOAD, INSTALL, COPY OR USE THE SOFTWARE. vs You further acknowledge that title and full ownership rights to the Software will remain the exclusive property of BigHit and/or its suppliers, There are all kinds of other bush-league errors and naive contradict…

Hi guys, Alexander from Meat! over here. Thanks for expressing your concern, it's totally understandable and we appreciate that. Now, to clear things up: we're a team of 10 and we spent an entire year on developing Meat!, day in, day out. To be honest, the license was our least concern, we just wanted to give you software that wouldn't be just another GitLab clone (hi there GitLab folks!) and we didn't devote the lic…

  Anyway, if there's enough response from the community for
  Open Source - then we'll do Meat! Open Source. We've 
  never had any problems with that and we never will. Just 
  let us.
I hear this a lot. Why wait? Who cares if there's no community response? It costs you nothing to throw up a repository, and it's free advertising. Maybe you'd even have time to talk to a real attorney about getting a useful license in place. Your potential customers would be able to answer their own questions by looking at the code, and enthusiastic supporters will submit improvements for free.

If your service is worth money, it will make money regardless of who can see your source code, but it does not reflect well on your team as a business operation that you were unable or unwilling to properly construct or acquire the single most important document relating to your income.

Re: Meat – A free self-hosted Git collaboration platform

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Post by moosey »

idibidiart wrote: post #7

huge turn off for vegans...

I'm a vegan and the name didn't "trigger" anything. That's anecdotal though, and I'm definitely not a militant vegan.

Edit: thought I'd mention that 'meat' has many definitions, one being male genitalia. Also, possibly "The essence, substance, or gist" (had to look that up for good verbiage). If it was something more like "bovine slaughterhouse" then I probably wouldn't be interested in it at all.

Re: Meat – A free self-hosted Git collaboration platform

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Post by tortoise_face »

dspillett wrote: post #39
idibidiart wrote: post #7

huge turn off for vegans...

When I get around to working on and publishing some personal projects I have in mind (well: if I ever get around to such things...) I'll be deliberately picking iffy names for two reasons: 1. I find it amusing to irritate people who are so easily irritated by that sort of thing (I know, I should poke bears, but...) 2. People not using the project because of the name acts as a self selection device for the userbase. T…

Why not care about a name? To someone who cares about animal rights the name "Meat!" and cute little pictures of steaks trivializes and normalizes something they might find abhorrent. You wouldn't name your app "Abortion!" and if you find yourself saying "well, that's far more offensive than 'Meat!'" then that's just you assuming your values apply to everyone.

Also, there's a bit of a gap between being uncomfortable with something and being "impossible to keep happy".

They can of course name their app whatever they want, but it seems to me that if you're selling something as innocuous as a git hosting platform that you'd do your best to distance yourself from something so needlessly alienating to potential customers.

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