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Re: Meat – A free self-hosted Git collaboration platform

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Post by stonogo » Fri, May 22, 2015, 4:03 PM UTC

daveloyall wrote: post #4

Proprietary license, no source. https://getmeat.io/license

Not just a proprietary license: a license written by someone who doesn't understand how licenses should be written.

  IF YOU DO NOT OWN THE SOFTWARE, THEN DO NOT DOWNLOAD, 
  INSTALL, COPY OR USE THE SOFTWARE.

vs

  You further acknowledge that title and full ownership 
  rights to the Software will remain the exclusive property 
  of BigHit and/or its suppliers,

There are all kinds of other bush-league errors and naive contradictions in there. It's a bit embarassing.

Re: Meat – A free self-hosted Git collaboration platform

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Post by vezzy-fnord » Fri, May 22, 2015, 4:04 PM UTC

espadrine wrote: post #12

davexunit wrote: post #8

This is non-free, actually. What's the point of self-hosting proprietary software?

Open-source is not just about the product's source being visible. They would need people to review patches, venues to interact with contributors, a policy to publicize future features to avoid clashing with contributors' work…

Those are project management/administrative details that have nothing to do with the definition of open source itself.

As it stands, the project's continuous use of the word "free" to mean gratis when marketing software meant for other programmers (if it was for non-technical users, I wouldn't object), I find to be deceptive.

Re: Meat – A free self-hosted Git collaboration platform

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Post by thoughtpolice » Fri, May 22, 2015, 4:04 PM UTC

jfdk wrote: post #20

mosselman wrote: post #10

Are there open-source alternatives apart from Gitlab that anyone can recommend? I must say that Meat looks very good.

http://phabricator.org is actually really great. It started in-house at Facebook. We've been using for the better part of year and I absolutely love it's code and design review tools. It also has a really nice CLI for managing your different reviews. Oh, and you don't have to worry about actually hosting the repos yourself (not worth the headache to me), you can just connect it to your github repo. Don't be scared by…

I also highly recommend Phabricator - it has excellent tools, active (paid) developers who are excellent people, and is very easy to maintain and use. I also think it simply scales to bigger projects much more effectively than GitHub (in some important ways - like emphasizing rebase and small, continuous development, a better UI, and better notification and commenting/review system as well). That's just me, though.

We use it for GHC, and I've had bugs fixed within 10 minutes of finding them on our live install thanks to the devs. They've also helped us write extensions and customize our Phab install. We've had a very good experience all around.

Re: Meat – A free self-hosted Git collaboration platform

#34

Post by jedrek » Fri, May 22, 2015, 4:05 PM UTC

stonogo wrote: post #31

daveloyall wrote: post #4

Proprietary license, no source. https://getmeat.io/license

Not just a proprietary license: a license written by someone who doesn't understand how licenses should be written. IF YOU DO NOT OWN THE SOFTWARE, THEN DO NOT DOWNLOAD, INSTALL, COPY OR USE THE SOFTWARE. vs You further acknowledge that title and full ownership rights to the Software will remain the exclusive property of BigHit and/or its suppliers, There are all kinds of other bush-league errors and naive contradict…

So I can't download the software?

Cool, I won't.

Re: Meat – A free self-hosted Git collaboration platform

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Post by est » Fri, May 22, 2015, 4:06 PM UTC

sytse wrote: post #14

patricksanders wrote: post #3

Looks pretty nice. I've been using/administering GitLab for our company, but I've always found it a bit heavy for our needs. I might give this a shot and see how it is.

GitLab CEO here, I would love to know what kind of heavy is the problem you're experiencing, hard to setup? hard to upgrade? cpu/ram/disk usage? too many features?

Mostly, RAM problem. We have a budget server with 1G RAM, had to restart Gitlab everyday, otherwise we get constant 500 errors.

Re: Meat – A free self-hosted Git collaboration platform

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Post by est » Fri, May 22, 2015, 4:06 PM UTC

tobbez wrote: post #16

mosselman wrote: post #10

Are there open-source alternatives apart from Gitlab that anyone can recommend? I must say that Meat looks very good.

There's https://kallithea-scm.org , but I haven't tried it.

It's a fork from Rhodecode if anyone is wondering. New version of Rhodecode offers git/hg/svn while Kallithea offers git/hg

Re: Meat – A free self-hosted Git collaboration platform

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Post by numberwhun » Fri, May 22, 2015, 4:06 PM UTC

I agree with all of the others that the licensing on this product is wonky. In fact, the EULA is between the person who download it..... and a music industry company? (BigHit Management Ltd.) Um, no. I don't think so. Big Hit can keep its software. I will keep my options open only to software that is more in tune and in line with the FOSS belief.

Re: Meat – A free self-hosted Git collaboration platform

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Post by SunShiranui » Fri, May 22, 2015, 4:12 PM UTC

sytse wrote: post #14

patricksanders wrote: post #3

Looks pretty nice. I've been using/administering GitLab for our company, but I've always found it a bit heavy for our needs. I might give this a shot and see how it is.

GitLab CEO here, I would love to know what kind of heavy is the problem you're experiencing, hard to setup? hard to upgrade? cpu/ram/disk usage? too many features?

I've been thinking about buying a Raspberry Pi 2 to run Gitlab on it. Do you think it is feasible or will the performance be too bad for normal use? I'll be hosting about 2-3 repos with 4 users on it.

Re: Meat – A free self-hosted Git collaboration platform

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Post by dspillett » Fri, May 22, 2015, 4:30 PM UTC

idibidiart wrote: post #7

huge turn off for vegans...

When I get around to working on and publishing some personal projects I have in mind (well: if I ever get around to such things...) I'll be deliberately picking iffy names for two reasons:

1. I find it amusing to irritate people who are so easily irritated by that sort of thing (I know, I should poke bears, but...)

2. People not using the project because of the name acts as a self selection device for the userbase. The sort of people who care so much about the name are more likely to be the sort of users who are costly (or impossible) to try keep happy generally...

Re: Meat – A free self-hosted Git collaboration platform

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Post by codecalm » Fri, May 22, 2015, 4:37 PM UTC

daveloyall wrote: post #4

Proprietary license, no source. https://getmeat.io/license

Meat people says:

> Do you want Meat! to be open-source? Pleas tell us @getm3at why you think it is important and we will definitely consider your opinion. We want Meat! to be adopted as widely as possible :)

https://getmeat.io/license

it look pretty nice!