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65,000+ different animals on Earth weened on their mothers milk, only 1 continues to consumes milk outside of infancy (and from another animal altogether!)... Majority of adults should avoid dairy products, would be order of magnitude more healthy if calories were replaced with green vegetables.
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Satiety is more than nothing yet less than everything. Are you equating satiety to feeling satisfied (as in happy)? Because satiety doesn't mean that. It means feeling full. Most obese people I know rarely ever feel satiety. Most feel hungry all the time (because they don't have satiety). When most people feel full and continue eating food which leads to feeling engorged, they stop eating because they soon feel miser…
craving != hunger Addiction to carbs has the same mechanism as addiction to cocaine
"The reason overweight individuals have a tough time is that they are VERY satieted by carb foods"
Satiety has little to with cravings. It has to do with hunger.
Regardless, I guess we are both in the "wrong" to assume whether particular individuals are truly satieted by carb foods or not. And I think we can both agree that it's best to avoid large amounts of simple carbs.
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Certainly true, carbs are addicting. But perhaps the satieting effect of fats can help individuals curb their hunger. http://europepmc.org/abstract/med/9683329 http://www.nature.com/ijo/journal/v32/n11/abs/ijo2008166a.ht...
there is no hunger believe me, there is craving. If you've been on cocaine you will know what i am talking about. Fats are really not important here, staying away from all simple carbs is the key to battle addiction. But fats are good anyway. Also some research shows that heart attacks are actually from carbs, not fats. check out Cereal Killers Movie
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Satiety is everything. The reason overweight individuals have a tough time is that they are not satieted by carb laden foods and thus crave more. Many have broken that cycle with ketogenic diets which are higher in fat.
Satiety is nothing. The reason overweight individuals have a tough time is that they are VERY satieted by carb foods but because the brain produce Dopamine they crave it and can't stop. Fat people = addicted to Dopamine. They will eat cookies, sandwiches and other simple carbs every day and between meals. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2381335/ http://www.cbsnews.com/news/processed-carbohydrates-are-addi...
I'd imagine a steak lover who just finished a porterhouse with bernaise is also high on dopamine.
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Satiety is nothing. The reason overweight individuals have a tough time is that they are VERY satieted by carb foods but because the brain produce Dopamine they crave it and can't stop. Fat people = addicted to Dopamine. They will eat cookies, sandwiches and other simple carbs every day and between meals. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2381335/ http://www.cbsnews.com/news/processed-carbohydrates-are-addi...
I would suggest you investigate the prospect that the fundamental human condition involves "dopamine addiction", as dopamine activity is literally the thing our brain does to trigger pleasure in our mind - it is the primary neurochemical mechanism of that feeling. Dopamine-moderated pleasure, or some variant of it, is a basic drive (perhaps synonymous with 'basic drive', with motivation itself) that we likely share w…
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craving != hunger Addiction to carbs has the same mechanism as addiction to cocaine
I agree craving != hunger. "The reason overweight individuals have a tough time is that they are VERY satieted by carb foods" Satiety has little to with cravings. It has to do with hunger. Regardless, I guess we are both in the "wrong" to assume whether particular individuals are truly satieted by carb foods or not. And I think we can both agree that it's best to avoid large amounts of simple carbs.
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I would suggest you investigate the prospect that the fundamental human condition involves "dopamine addiction", as dopamine activity is literally the thing our brain does to trigger pleasure in our mind - it is the primary neurochemical mechanism of that feeling. Dopamine-moderated pleasure, or some variant of it, is a basic drive (perhaps synonymous with 'basic drive', with motivation itself) that we likely share w…
OMG, it's NOT about calories, if you eat white sugar it goes straight to fat and if you eat almonds, it is digested gradually. Fat people are addicted to sweets, cookies, rice, bread. They don't eat green veggie with olive oil. Just see WHAT they eat ffs. Just go in the cafe and look in their plates. They ALL eat a ton of noodles, rice (Asia), bread, sweet sauces and sweet "juices" and drinks. Come on, time to wake t…
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OMG, it's NOT about calories, if you eat white sugar it goes straight to fat and if you eat almonds, it is digested gradually. Fat people are addicted to sweets, cookies, rice, bread. They don't eat green veggie with olive oil. Just see WHAT they eat ffs. Just go in the cafe and look in their plates. They ALL eat a ton of noodles, rice (Asia), bread, sweet sauces and sweet "juices" and drinks. Come on, time to wake t…
Its absolutely about calories. Habits related to particular foods, including carbs, may be particularly common contributors to thee calorie excess (either by contributing to more calories, or by contributing to food sources which produce feelings which discourage exercise, or both) but ultimately fat gain is produced by a calorie surplus, and maintaining lots of fat.
If you sugar spikes from carbs, insulin stores it into fat.
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I would suggest you investigate the prospect that the fundamental human condition involves "dopamine addiction", as dopamine activity is literally the thing our brain does to trigger pleasure in our mind - it is the primary neurochemical mechanism of that feeling. Dopamine-moderated pleasure, or some variant of it, is a basic drive (perhaps synonymous with 'basic drive', with motivation itself) that we likely share w…
OMG, it's NOT about calories, if you eat white sugar it goes straight to fat and if you eat almonds, it is digested gradually. Fat people are addicted to sweets, cookies, rice, bread. They don't eat green veggie with olive oil. Just see WHAT they eat ffs. Just go in the cafe and look in their plates. They ALL eat a ton of noodles, rice (Asia), bread, sweet sauces and sweet "juices" and drinks. Come on, time to wake t…
That's what you just said. You're wrong, btw. Plent. Of morbidly obese and super obese people eat lots of fat.
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Its absolutely about calories. Habits related to particular foods, including carbs, may be particularly common contributors to thee calorie excess (either by contributing to more calories, or by contributing to food sources which produce feelings which discourage exercise, or both) but ultimately fat gain is produced by a calorie surplus, and maintaining lots of fat.
That's a pseudo science invented by food companies to make people eat more processed food and sugar. If you sugar spikes from carbs, insulin stores it into fat.
No, that you need a calorie surplus to increase stored energy, whether in the form of fat or otherwise, isn't pseudo-science (the alternative is pseudo-science of the same sort as perpetual motion machines.)
And people trying to avoid a calorie surplus are not going to eat more sugar ("processed foods" perhaps -- I mean, lots of convenient high-protein, low-sugar, shelf-stable convenient foods are fairly highly processed from their raw forms. OTOH, I don't see a real problem with them, either. All "processed foods" are not created equal.)
> If you sugar spikes from carbs, insulin stores it into fat.
Right. But if you aren't maintaining a calorie surplus, you aren't going to gain stored energy whether in the form of fat or otherwise, because you're going to be using stored energy at least as fast as you are storing it.
OTOH, excess carb intake is often associated with a feeling of lethargy which discourages activity, so in addition to the calories coming in from that activity, that eating pattern can reduce calories going out. And lots of people have metabolic issues related to carbs which make excess carb intake a health problem for other reasons, so its definitely true that there are good reasons to be aware of carb intake for most people, and for people with particular health conditions related to carbs that's even more true.
But its not true that either weight or fat gain is unrelated to calorie balance.