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Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10

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Re: Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10

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Post by danieltillett »

kule wrote: post #127
danieltillett wrote: post #23

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Yes 10.10 was released at least a year too early - it really should not be out of beta. I get daily "pizza wheels of death" with 10.10.3 on my Mac Pro. On the same machine I have yet to have Windows 8.1 crash. The hardware is fantastic, the software far less so.

btw did you do a fresh install? I'd always just upgraded and had no problems; until Yosemite. It's a bit more time consuming but Yosemite has worked great for me since I did a fresh install.

I did a semi-clean upgrade. I bought the Mac Pro late last year and it stil had 10.9 on it. I upgrade to 10.10 before copying across my user files and software from my laptop running 10.9. I have been trying to figure out what the cause is by looking at the crash logs without any success. I do find that daily reboots lessens the risk, other than this there does not seem to be any rhyme or reason.

I have been using MacOS of various stripes since 1990 (I am a biologist by background and biologists were one of the few groups that stuck with macs through the late 90s). Other than 10.1 Yosemite is the buggiest OS 10 release to date in my experience.

Re: Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10

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Post by danieltillett »

protomyth wrote: post #123
coldtea wrote: post #118

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Ι've seen some wi-fi pain. I've not have had any crashes yet. I had a few in Mavericks and Mountain Lion (grey screen about needing to restart etc) -- like 1 or 2 a month.

Yosemite likes to crash hard when it is put to sleep at home then plugged into a thunderbolt monitor at work. This has happened quite a lot to multiple machines and I have no clue. Add to that the buggy Finder from Maverick and I am getting complaints. Its time for another Snow Leopard.

I agree 100%. Apple needs to devote an entire release to stability and gaining back its reputation for stability. At the moment absolutely beautiful hardware is being ruined by cruddy software.

Re: Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10

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Post by Aleman360 »

Veratyr wrote: post #150
Aleman360 wrote: post #72

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And guess what... We're using the same tools available to third party app developers, in an effort to ensure the dev platform is rock solid. The Start menu is just a universal XAML app. We don't have to do any special optimization on top of what the framework offers. Disclaimer: Microsoft employee working on the Windows 10 Start menu.

I've had an odd bug where upon waking from sleep, my desktop displays the start menu persistently, without the ability to interact with it. My current workaround is to lock the computer and unlock it again. This seems to work but it's really annoying. It only occurs on my desktop PC and not my Surface (which has issues of its own). Any clue if there's anything I can do here or should I just wait?

I think I recall seeing that one in the bug list. Sit tight.

And just FYI, we do look at the stuff that gets submitted through the built-in Windows Feedback app.

Re: Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10

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Post by bad_user »

jszymborski wrote: post #80
roma1n wrote: post #76

While we're talking about windows, any advice on how to make it developer friendly outside of .net? (Say for people whose main tools are bash, vi and a compiler)

Step one: Install Cmdr http://gooseberrycreative.com/cmder/ Step two: If on !Win10, use the chocolatey nu-get package manager ( https://chocolatey.org/ ), but if on Win10, I _think_ the native package manager will be a drop-in, tho I'm not sure. That is literally _all_ you have to do to get 90% of what I do on a linux terminal into a windows console.

Chocolatey has been awful for me. Also Cmdr is not well unmaintained and it's a far cry from the Linux tool-chain. People will be better off with Babun or straight Cygwin - http://babun.github.io/

Re: Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10

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Post by integraton »

Artemis2 wrote: post #126
anonymfus wrote: post #43

>Little design touches have really improved the way things look, such as the switch to circular account pictures on the login screen This is the thing I and many other Windows users hate with passion, see rants like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/windowsphone/comments/35zsgk/excuse... https://windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-sug... https://windows.uservoice.com/forums/265757-windows-feature-... https:…

It's actually a UX improvement: a lead designer at Microsoft talked about how "people aren't squares" in a recent blog post [1]. I'm not sure it looks that great, but once you know the logic behind it it's a lot more interesting. [1]: http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/04/29/windows-...

If they were being honest, the actual reason is that circular avatars have been trendy and the norm for new designs on the web, iOS, and Android for the past 3 to 4 years, and the two primary reasons they became popular were because border-radius became supported widely enough around that time, and because photographs of faces arguably look better in a circular frame, at least according to current tastes.

Here's a quora thread from back in 2013 discussing it:

http://www.quora.com/Why-are-many-UI-designers-using-round-p...

Re: Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10

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Post by [deleted] »

robotresearcher wrote: post #129
AnkhMorporkian wrote: post #79

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You guys have knocked it out of the park with the start menu. It's wonderful. Besides occasionally having to kill explorer because it becomes non-responsive it's been an absolute pleasure to use. I really like that you guys have downgraded the size a bit since earlier builds; really sleek and useful now.

> Besides occasionally having to kill explorer because it becomes non-responsive it's been an absolute pleasure to use. Sigh.

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Re: Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10

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Post by pmelendez »

peterhadlaw wrote: post #64
pmelendez wrote: post #24

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Maybe... Still my Yoga 2 Pro feels and looks better than any Mac laptop I have own or seen. Touch screen is definetely a must-have to me. It is specially useful if you are developing for touch devices.

Are the colors still messed up on the Y2P?

I haven't had any problems with colors so far (I compared them with my wife MBP and another HP Desktop we have at home). I did have weird color issues with my desktop XPS 2720 but were driver related.

Re: Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10

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Post by farawayea »

sathyabhat wrote: post #141
robotresearcher wrote: post #129

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> Besides occasionally having to kill explorer because it becomes non-responsive it's been an absolute pleasure to use. Sigh.

You're talking about pre-release software.

Cool story. Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 have similar problems. Windows 7 becomes slow with huge uptime. Windows 8.1 has countless bugs.

Re: Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10

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Post by farawayea »

Aleman360 wrote: post #72
kasabali wrote: post #29

> Here's the real kicker: it's fast. It's smooth. It renders at 60FPS unless you have a lot going on. It's unequivocally better than performance on OS X, further leading me to believe that Apple really needs to overhaul how animations are done. Even when I turn Transparency off in OS X, Mission Control isn't completely smooth. Here, even after some Aero Glass transparency has been added in, everything is smooth. It's…

And guess what... We're using the same tools available to third party app developers, in an effort to ensure the dev platform is rock solid. The Start menu is just a universal XAML app. We don't have to do any special optimization on top of what the framework offers. Disclaimer: Microsoft employee working on the Windows 10 Start menu.

What's happening with search? Is using Cortana mandatory? What's up with always using web search? Why can't I turn this web search off? Do I absolutely must block off bing and all Microsoft services at the network level to stop this?

Re: Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

FreakyT wrote: post #148
izacus wrote: post #84

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Oh pretty much all of them have better trackpad experience than Apple drivers on Windows provide. Under OS X the trackpad is stellar, but on Windows the drivers are just awful.

You're completely correct, and it's unfortunate that you're being downvoted. I'm guessing this is due to idiots who have never used Windows on a Mac laptop and think they know more than they do.

As a universal, parent's claim is patently false. I have an Lenovo X1 Carbon that is a testament to how crappy a trackpad can get. I have had a few PC laptops in the last 5 years (HP, Lenovo) but have never found one with an adequate trackpad. So, if could you please tell me which laptop I should try? This is quite easy to test.

I've heard good things about the new XPS trackpad, but haven't been able to try one in the wild yet.

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