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Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10

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Re: Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10

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I'm using Gnome shell and just tested what happens to the CPU usage when I drag around windows. The dragging itself was buttery smooth and gnome-shell never used more than 12.6% of one core. I'm using the libre radeonsi driver.

It's because of either different drivers, or your one core is faster than my poor little c2d core, or you're not moving it crazy enough :) Did you compare it with kwin? For example, on my machine gnome shell uses sth. like 40-60% while kwin is 10% at most.

I'm using a 4670K, so there is a difference, but I doubt that this is the explaining factor.

I know that gnome successfully offloads work to the GPU when I drag the windows [1] because I can hear it [2].

I don't have kwin installed, so I didn't compare.

[1] Yes, I also did move them wildly, too.

[2] My graphic cards has serious coil whine issues.

Re: Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10

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I have about 50 to go by and given the stats, it crashes more often than Maverick and much more than Mountain Lion. Wifi is a constant pain (although iOS 8 is much, much worse with about 75% of the iPhones and iPads refusing to work with our Cisco network - no other OS exhibits this randomish behavior). It also is a memory hog compared to Maverick and earlier. 4GB machines are noticeably sluggish (to the point of use…

Ι've seen some wi-fi pain. I've not have had any crashes yet. I had a few in Mavericks and Mountain Lion (grey screen about needing to restart etc) -- like 1 or 2 a month.

Yosemite likes to crash hard when it is put to sleep at home then plugged into a thunderbolt monitor at work. This has happened quite a lot to multiple machines and I have no clue. Add to that the buggy Finder from Maverick and I am getting complaints. Its time for another Snow Leopard.

Re: Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10

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What about the OS license? Did he buy it separately?

If you have a Windows 7/8/8.1 license it will be free to upgrade to Windows 10. If you don't have any of the above, than yes, you will need to buy a license.

I suppose the author bought a Windows 8 (the articles claims that he did a clean Windows 10 install starting from Windows 8) license at some time in the past, since a Mac doesn't come with a Windows license.

Re: Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10

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Apple's windows trackpad drivers are indeed not that great, but I haven't seen a windows laptop yet that can provide a better trackpad experience in spite of the bad drivers.

Oh pretty much all of them have better trackpad experience than Apple drivers on Windows provide. Under OS X the trackpad is stellar, but on Windows the drivers are just awful.

The multiple finger related functionality doesn't work that well under Windows, but simply moving the cursor feels a lot better than most Windows trackpads I've used.

Re: Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10

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>Little design touches have really improved the way things look, such as the switch to circular account pictures on the login screen This is the thing I and many other Windows users hate with passion, see rants like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/windowsphone/comments/35zsgk/excuse... https://windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-sug... https://windows.uservoice.com/forums/265757-windows-feature-... https:…

It's actually a UX improvement: a lead designer at Microsoft talked about how "people aren't squares" in a recent blog post [1]. I'm not sure it looks that great, but once you know the logic behind it it's a lot more interesting.

[1]: http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/04/29/windows-...

Re: Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10

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Except that Yosemite was released almost a year ago and Win10 is about to be released this year. A buggy OS is different than a Beta OS.

Yes 10.10 was released at least a year too early - it really should not be out of beta. I get daily "pizza wheels of death" with 10.10.3 on my Mac Pro. On the same machine I have yet to have Windows 8.1 crash. The hardware is fantastic, the software far less so.

btw did you do a fresh install? I'd always just upgraded and had no problems; until Yosemite. It's a bit more time consuming but Yosemite has worked great for me since I did a fresh install.

Re: Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10

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> Without a PrintScreen key, I had to download some software to let me take a timed screenshot. One thing I miss from OS X is the Cmd+Shift+3 shortcut.

I believe the shortcut you're looking for is Cmd+Shift+S. Courtesy of OneNote, it's the equivalent of Cmd+Shift+4 on Mac OS.

Re: Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10

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And guess what... We're using the same tools available to third party app developers, in an effort to ensure the dev platform is rock solid. The Start menu is just a universal XAML app. We don't have to do any special optimization on top of what the framework offers. Disclaimer: Microsoft employee working on the Windows 10 Start menu.

You guys have knocked it out of the park with the start menu. It's wonderful. Besides occasionally having to kill explorer because it becomes non-responsive it's been an absolute pleasure to use. I really like that you guys have downgraded the size a bit since earlier builds; really sleek and useful now.

> Besides occasionally having to kill explorer because it becomes non-responsive it's been an absolute pleasure to use.

Sigh.

Re: Testing the 12-inch MacBook's Performance with Windows 10

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Gnome shell is CPU hungry and I can tell I'm not alone with that because I did a lot of google search on it. Even when dragging windows around, CPU usage skyrockets to 40-60% and it's not even smooth. And that's with gpu acceleration, I can't even imagine what would've happened if it were on software rendering. Not to mention memory usage of gnome shell only increases with time. They are all known issues but shell de…

I'm using Gnome shell and just tested what happens to the CPU usage when I drag around windows. The dragging itself was buttery smooth and gnome-shell never used more than 12.6% of one core. I'm using the libre radeonsi driver.

Totally unscientific: On my ancient Thinkpad T61p with nvidia graphics of some vintage and the proprietary drivers installed on Debian Jessie, I get around 12 to 20% on one of the two cores with vigourous mouse assisted window movement of an Iceweasel window. MATE desktop, compiz is not available in Jessie repos so using marco.

The overall user experience is smooth and pleasant. I doubt if Windows 8/10 would install on this machine (although it came with Windows 7). I have several Thinkpads of this vintage for the keyboards, not needing super powerful processors.

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