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It's likely part of their tech mandate. I suspect what advantages it may have were not a big driver in that decision. They have a vested interest in driving silverlight adoption and use.
Had. Silverlight is no longer improved.
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I for one am pretty decided to move to Firefox once Mozilla integrates Servo into it (granted the performance benefits really are significant). But I'm also waiting for Mozilla to implement its multi-process sandboxing system. Microsoft seems to be doing some interesting things on that front as well - I hope Mozilla is watching. I like the idea of having each tab in an secured app container, which sounds even better…
> I for one am pretty decided to move to Firefox once Mozilla integrates Servo into it Hooray! I'm excited to have you back. :) If your switch is gated on Servo, you might be in for a long wait: we're moving small, modular components into Firefox as we're able, but completely changing implementation languages for parts of a browser used by hundreds of millions of people is a slow, deliberate process which involves pr…
Interesting, it seems like there would be an order of magnitude (or more) difference in effort to write these two things. The third link you gave links to mp4parse-rust, is that what you mean by image decoder?
Netflix are hypocrites (and all this is primarily their fault). They claimed that this DRM garbage in the standard wasn't their desire, and they did it to oblige obsessed publishers. Yet, where is their own content DRM-free?
If I were Netflix, I would use my own content (such as House of Cards) to demonstrate that it's possible to go DRM-free.
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https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/governance/policies/part... "Mozilla-based activities should be inclusive and should support such diversity." Okay. If Eich was still there, this must logically be followed with: "..Nevermind that one C-level guy over there who took positive action to deny some of you rights, this absolutely will not impact anything in any way and we as a company still hold these views of diversity…
> nobody can silo their beliefs So we need to stop discrimination before it happens? How do you feel about implementing some pre-crime measures nation-wide? As soon as he started advocating some anti-gay hiring policies, or rejecting pull requests from transvestites, then the consequences would've made sense to me. Though that's an idealist view, in reality letting him stay would've been interpreted as an endorsment…
This is basically a variant of the argument that is used by religious business owners who don't want to serve gay people... "you are infringing on our right to practice our religion!" they say.
The point being, you have rights, but you don't have the right to infringe on other people's rights.
Yeah, but at least we managed to get that hateful bigot out of the company! That's important, right? More seriously, we really do have a problem, but it looks like the users just don't want to be free.
but it looks like the users just don't want to be free. The users don't care. I have never been able to convince a layperson why DRM should matter at all to them, have you?.
That's true, but I think it's a cop out.
When Google, Microsoft and Netflix specced, implemented and shipped EME, there was no significant pushback. Of course, as you say, average users don't care - they don't even understand the issue. But tech people didn't care enough either.
Instead, tech people flocked to products made by at least 2 of those 3 responsible for EME. And they kept installing those products for their non-techie relatives and so forth.
The real reason EME was not stopped is that people in the tech industry didn't care. A few of us did, of course, but the majority of us simply didn't. Most tech people agree that DRM is bad, but as a group we did not decrease our usage of Google, Microsoft and Netflix products containing EME.
We could have stopped this. We didn't.
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but it looks like the users just don't want to be free. The users don't care. I have never been able to convince a layperson why DRM should matter at all to them, have you?.
"That DVD you bought? The one from a different region? It won't play and the reason it won't play is because of DRM. You think you can just put it in your laptop and use VLC, but you forget that your laptop DVD drive is probably region-locked in firmware, so although yes VLC ignores region coding the drive doesn't, and will enforce the region coding and refuse to play your DVD. I can fix it for you. Here's the list o…
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There's nothing in Mozilla's mission statement[0][1] incompatible with Eich's personal beliefs. > You personally, the guy typing the letters into this box, what do you think the outcome of such a "negotiation" would be if it were as successful as humanly possible? I think it would have been adults acting like adults and accepting you don't have to agree with somebody in order to work with them. Eich already demonstra…
The question here is not "Did Eich's presence cause an exclusionary atmosphere at Mozilla?", which is what you appear to be arguing. As you mention, the answer is no. The question is actually "Is it appropriate for someone who takes active steps to treat some people as undeserving of basic rights[1] to take the ultimate leadership role in a diversity focused company?" That answer is no. Going back to your "negotiatio…
First, it's not a "diversity focused company" it's a company focused on building a Free and Open internet. Being socially inclusive in their internal culture is secondary. Moreover Eich's definition of inclusivity was perfectly in line with Mozilla's which is that not only are sexual orientations protected but so are religious views as long as the person interacts constructively with the community. He had his personal religious views and by all accounts he didn't let them prevent him from interacting constructively with the Mozilla community.
> "...and Mozilla would suffer due to the volume of people who stated they would not work for or with someone who did what he did."
It was less than 10 employees who asked him to step down, none of them were his direct reports, how many threatened to leave?
There's absolutely no reason that he should be forced to apologize for his donation. I don't agree with the donation but I'm an American and I think it's extremely dangerous to go down the road of persecuting others for taking part in political campaigns, etc.
I agree with you that Eich's actions are to a large extent known, so I again challenge you to provide me with a single shred of evidence that in his 16 years at Mozilla Eich treated even one member of the LGBT community unfairly from his position of power.
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I for one am pretty decided to move to Firefox once Mozilla integrates Servo into it (granted the performance benefits really are significant). But I'm also waiting for Mozilla to implement its multi-process sandboxing system. Microsoft seems to be doing some interesting things on that front as well - I hope Mozilla is watching. I like the idea of having each tab in an secured app container, which sounds even better…
> I for one am pretty decided to move to Firefox once Mozilla integrates Servo into it Hooray! I'm excited to have you back. :) If your switch is gated on Servo, you might be in for a long wait: we're moving small, modular components into Firefox as we're able, but completely changing implementation languages for parts of a browser used by hundreds of millions of people is a slow, deliberate process which involves pr…
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> need silverlight to be able to watch GoT No you don't. I've watched every episode of GoT, without having Silverlight installed (Does it even run on Linux? I've no idea).
I actually do have Netflix running via Silverlight on Firefox on Linux. Winodws Silverlight is running in Wine, with Pipelight to display the Windows plugin in the Linux Firefox (actually Iceweasel) process. Its emulators all the way down!
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There's nothing in Mozilla's mission statement[0][1] incompatible with Eich's personal beliefs. > You personally, the guy typing the letters into this box, what do you think the outcome of such a "negotiation" would be if it were as successful as humanly possible? I think it would have been adults acting like adults and accepting you don't have to agree with somebody in order to work with them. Eich already demonstra…
The question here is not "Did Eich's presence cause an exclusionary atmosphere at Mozilla?", which is what you appear to be arguing. As you mention, the answer is no. The question is actually "Is it appropriate for someone who takes active steps to treat some people as undeserving of basic rights[1] to take the ultimate leadership role in a diversity focused company?" That answer is no. Going back to your "negotiatio…
> ....The pichforks didn't truly come out until the number of his non-answers on the issue. Someone saying "we support diversity" doesn't sound right when that can be instantly rebutted with "Then why is your company run by someone who donated against LGBTs?"
> It looks bad for Mozilla, and there's no good answer for that question - really!
I think this accidentally hits the nail right on the head. Eich had to go because people couldn't handle the complexity of the situation and so they chose a simplified version where everybody involved was either good or evil. The reality was Prop 8 wasn't so great, but that's a lot of baby to throw out with a very small amount of bathwater.