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Re: Lily – Drone camera

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Well, you knocked those straw men down. I guess that settles it. Drones are exactly like windows aren't they?

Talking about straw men, he also mentioned guns and toy rockets.

A strawman might hurt someone if it gets knocked over easily, but we don't see the government stepping in to stop people building them up all the time!

Re: Lily – Drone camera

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RealSense uses projected IR and thus doesn't work outdoors. (edit: because short-range and little ambient IR are required)

Thanks for the tip. Are there any portable technology that would work outdoors ?

Vision works for animals, and a lot of people are working very hard to do it for computers. Google "UAV visual SLAM" for examples.

LIDAR works already but is heavy, power hungry and expensive. Not good for these small vehicles.

Re: Lily – Drone camera

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I've been designing, building and flying model airplanes and later helicopters since I was ten years old. I've always flown in the context of a registered flying club and carry one million dollars insurance for my activity. I continue to be horrified by what is happening with these multicopters. People fly them outside of controlled environments and with a total lack of consideration towards others or their property.…

While acknowledging the fact that drones being operated by "morons" do not amount to safe. Could you fill me in on what safety features a 3k copter offers over one of these smaller and arguably less threatening drones. Googled a couple "high dollar" copters most seemed to be in range of ~4kg range with large fixed carbon fiber blades as opposed to (in this particular case) a 3 pound object with collapsible polycarbonate blades. Honestly seeing this trend of "automated" drones the only human controlled factor of idiocy would be removed in part due to the automated nature of this drone, this would seem to favor a trend towards safer operations.

Re: Lily – Drone camera

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That is until your cheap drone hits a paraglider, or other light vehicle that is actually allowed to operate in this air space. In most legislations I am aware of, RC flight requires an operator to be in control of the drone.

I would love Mythbusters to throw the biggest drone you can get into a jet engine. Pretty sure nothing, but some good entertainment would happen.

http://www.uasamericafund.com/assets/micro-uav-safety-analys...

Re: Lily – Drone camera

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Thanks for these! Prices/status for reference: Status Release Price ----------- --------- ------------ AirDog* Pre-Order Q3 2015 $1,295 HEXO+* Pre-Order Sept 2015 $1,299 IRIS+* Available Now $750 Mind4* Kickstarter Failed $900-$1,489 Lily Pre-Order Feb 2016 $519-$1,019 *Note that all but Lily require a $300 GoPro camera. Price ranges are for Pre-Order vs. Post-Ship pricing. EDIT: Found Lily release date...

Amazing. Lily is like half the price of the rest. Where did you get the $ price? Right now it's $500, no real options, right? The price just seems unbelievably low compared to all the other options.

It is low because that's a preorder price. They need the money so they can order in bulk from the factory.

In any case, I don't believe that's the entire cost of the unit, I think that's just 'put x dollars down to be put on the preorder list' and you just might have to pay the full amount later.

Re: Lily – Drone camera

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I'm a bit worried about that "throwing start".

What happens when the battery is low or when I give it a tad too much spin?

"Whoops, did I just lob my $500 gadget into solid concrete?"

Well, I suppose it probably has safer take-off modes, too. Can't wait until they shrink it down to tennis ball size.

Re: Lily – Drone camera

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that would be a much safer setup but don't see these consumer drones implementing all that!

A consumer follow-me quad with a youtube camera launched via kickstarter? Probably not. A future DJI aerial photography product with a 4000-8000 price tag? Absolutely. If Amazon ever intends to deploy these for actual package delivery instead of just PR they'll need redundant computers with a voting system, fault tolerant flight control algorithms with some kind of fault case detection and some kind of failsafe parac…

Absolutely, for the higher end. What scares me is these consumer drones with inexperienced pilots/autonomous tech without proper failsafes. I'm pretty sure they will be banned from ski slopes etc pretty quick.

Optical flow can hold pretty stable when GPS is unavailable, other types of CV like SLAM even better.

Re: Lily – Drone camera

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We live in a society with motor vehicles. They are here to stay. It doesn't matter what their safety record may be or under which parameters they are operated. Drones are an entirely separate issue. We do not live in a society with drones. Period. Now if we would like to introduce them into our society it doesn't matter what laws or regulations are established for their safe operation without on-board fail safes thei…

Nobody is okay with that, it's an asinine question. Am I okay with my new born infant's soft little squishy skull living in a world with drones, which occasionally drop out of the sky? Yep. And we do live in that world, actually. They've already been "introduced," as you put it.

Not even apples and oranges. I know that they can still fly safely with only two motors if they are opposing. They may be so safe that it won't be for years to come but eventually after enough mad mothers are up in arms about somebody losing an eye or it getting sucked into an airliner jet that they're going to start heaping on the restrictions. One of the concerns with using them for deliveries at least in a city like Los Angeles is that people will try and shoot them down.

Already been introduced(bad term)? So 1 in 3 households have a drone in the U.S.? OK 1 in 4? You can always count on this statistic- 1 in 10? Nah? Surely 5% of Americans own or use the services of a drone then right? Yeah then they haven't been introduced yet

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