Elon Musk email to Tesla employee about missing an event to witness the birth

Post by loco5niner » Tue, May 12, 2015, 5:33 PM UTC

TeMPOraL wrote: post #134

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Somehow we've gone from "Elon cares more about his business than he does about his employees - to the extreme." To: "Would it be OK to be a dick if you're curing cancer?" And when that didn't play, the argument was reframed again as: "You're harming countless strangers unless you're a dick." Twist it anyway you want, if someone wants to be a selfish dick, they should own it, not rationalize it. I'm pretty sure the co…

> If you can't prioritize (what should be) the most important of your personal relationships above what you want to do, it's unlikely that the real reason you working is because you have a surplus of love for the world. Is having a surplus of love for the world a bad thing? I believe a lot of problems would solve themselves if we have more. Also, relationships are also something you want to do, you aren't forced into…

Post by iamcurious » Wed, May 13, 2015, 1:29 AM UTC

mindcrime wrote: post #160

iamcurious wrote: post #72

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that diminishes my respect for Elon just a touch You are way more generous than I am.

I mean, it's one incident, at one point in time, with very little context. I'm hardly in a position to judge somebody based on that. Who here hasn't said something insensitive or less than compassionate to somebody else, at some point in time? Does that mean we're all bad people? Nah... Even though I'm totally not religious, I try to adhere somewhat to that old saw about "let ye who be free from sin throw the first s…

Post by ConfuciusSay » Thu, May 14, 2015, 7:55 PM UTC

AstroChimpHam wrote: post #128

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Working at Tesla is not a huge privilege. It's a job, maybe even a great one, but it doesn't make you a better person, it doesn't even guarantee that you'll be employable after working there. Having worked for a couple of very popular places, I realized pretty quickly its a job. You know what these places have in common? You're an employee, which means they can and will cut you loose when it suits them. "Reshaping th…

So, don't work there. We're talking about really smart people that can get jobs wherever else if they don't like the culture at Tesla. All the replies on my comment share the same issue that for them seeing the birth of their child is more important than being a part of Tesla. That's fine. Don't work at Tesla. That's why I wouldn't work there either. I wouldn't work in the army either, which has the same setbacks whe…

Post by a8da6b0c91d » Thu, May 14, 2015, 9:46 PM UTC

Zelphyr wrote: post #119

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> A dad isn't in the delivery room just to "witness" the birth, or at least he shouldn't be. But I mean, surely the "witnessing" is important on its own, no?

We went through the Lamaze classes where they tell you all the things you'll be doing to help your wife birth your first child. Then we went to the delivery room where the nurses pointed next to my wife's head and said, "you stand here" while they did all the things I thought I was supposed to do. And, honestly, I didn't mind. It was nice letting the professionals do their jobs and I could sort of be a cheerleader (b…