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More Consensus on Coffee’s Benefits Than You Might Think

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Re: More Consensus on Coffee’s Benefits Than You Might Think

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For some people with GERD, coffee is very bad for them. My wife switched from coffee to tea for this reason. Tea is pretty fabulous for her, and I gather there's at least some documented health benefits on that front as well. Edit: GERD = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastroesophageal_reflux_disease Second Edit: To be clear: I agree with the parent article, I think coffee is close to harmless for MOST people, and very…

GERD?

commonly known as acid reflux

Re: More Consensus on Coffee’s Benefits Than You Might Think

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Without the information who financed these numerous research results, they are not worth the time to read them or to write about them, imho.

The article also relies heavily on a metaanalysis, not just individual studies. Meta analyses are designed to take a large multitude of studies in the same area and ascertain an effect size. By examining everything in aggregate, this should counteract any funding bias -- or reveal it if the results get skewed (i.e. lots of positive results and lots of negative results but no middling results). Additionally, meta analyses usually consist of a "file drawer" search where they get their hands on a bunch of the unpublished papers and analyze those as well to ensure they counteract any publishing bias for printing papers that only show positive results.

Re: More Consensus on Coffee’s Benefits Than You Might Think

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the US, at least, there's a strange convention that a "cup" of coffee is 6 ounces[1]. 2 mugs is typically about 4 of these "cups". I'm not sure what convention the NY Times is using, but the quantities are quite muddled. 1. http://cooking.stackexchange.com/questions/25041/is-a-cup-on...

I always hated that "cup" measure in the US... Anywho, I don't think the volume of coffee one drinks in a day is relevant without stating how concentrated it is. I'm assuming 6 oz of americano coffee doesn't have quite the same effect as a 6 oz cup of esspresso (oh Lord.) I know that, technically, a glass of beer should contain the same amount of alcohol as a shot of vodka or a glass of wine in a bar. Of course in pr…

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Re: More Consensus on Coffee’s Benefits Than You Might Think

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Anecdotally, I would agree with you for some, but for others not so much. I get a short boost followed by a long crash when drinking coffee. It's also like an unfocused focus - like as long as what I want to focus on is nearby, I will do that. But if I have to figure out what I want to focus on, that feels like frustration and hypertension. I prefer tea. I get up at 4:50 am 5 days a week, and I rarely sleep past 7-8…

The OP was saying that being lonely is worse for your health than drinking coffee.

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Re: More Consensus on Coffee’s Benefits Than You Might Think

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Without the information who financed these numerous research results, they are not worth the time to read them or to write about them, imho.

The article also relies heavily on a metaanalysis, not just individual studies. Meta analyses are designed to take a large multitude of studies in the same area and ascertain an effect size. By examining everything in aggregate, this should counteract any funding bias -- or reveal it if the results get skewed (i.e. lots of positive results and lots of negative results but no middling results). Additionally, meta anal…

I don't know where you got the idea that metanalysis is mostly unpublished work. I've never seen a published meta analysis like that. Most journals wouldn't print it.

Re: More Consensus on Coffee’s Benefits Than You Might Think

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always hated that "cup" measure in the US... Anywho, I don't think the volume of coffee one drinks in a day is relevant without stating how concentrated it is. I'm assuming 6 oz of americano coffee doesn't have quite the same effect as a 6 oz cup of esspresso (oh Lord.) I know that, technically, a glass of beer should contain the same amount of alcohol as a shot of vodka or a glass of wine in a bar. Of course in pr…

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He was saying that one beer (standard American longneck bottle holds 12oz) contains ~about~ as much as a shot of vodka (standard jigger shot is 1.5oz) which contains about as much as a glass of wine (5-6oz pours are standard at US restaurants).

Re: More Consensus on Coffee’s Benefits Than You Might Think

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Without the information who financed these numerous research results, they are not worth the time to read them or to write about them, imho.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

No, that would be calling out the author by name as a shill. Remarking that the source the author is relying upon could possibly be biased/tainted is not an ad hominem in any way.

Re: More Consensus on Coffee’s Benefits Than You Might Think

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I'd argue that coffee is connected to a rather unhealthy lifestyle of sitting in an office chair the whole day, eating unhealthy fast-/restaurant food instead of cooking for yourself, working long hours instead of a regular 7 to 5 schedule etc.

Coffee is ingrained into the culture of many professions, far beyond just office jobs. Nursing, landscaping, utility work, construction, you name it...it's a great way to kickstart the body when having to get up at 5am or, stay awake during an overnight shift serving tables at a restaurant.

> Coffee is ingrained into the culture of many professions, far beyond just office jobs.

Exactly, so it could be very silly to claim that any benefits to coffee are actually because of it being a part of healthy lifestyles.

I too, like the GP, don't exactly equate coffee to healthy lifestyles, because of my interactions with various people where coffee is used to extend the day far past where it is healthy to do so.

> it's a great way to kickstart the body when having to get up at 5am or, stay awake during an overnight shift serving tables at a restaurant.

These are not healthy activities, but I still think that coffee being a part of so many both healthy and unhealthy lifestyles makes trying to equate health benefits of coffee to being just a because it's part of some healthy lifestyles silly.

Re: More Consensus on Coffee’s Benefits Than You Might Think

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Coffee itself might not have anything to do with it; rather, coffee follows a certain lifestyle which is healthier than that of non-drinkers. I.e. it is perhaps quite good for you to get up every morning at 9am and go to work. Active lifestyle, continuous stimuli etc. Coffee just so happens to be very ingrained in that culture. It might not be the actual chemicals and nutrients of coffee that helps you, but the fact…

I also wonder if it's something intrinsic to coffee, or just a result of the caffeine. Stimulants like caffeine can improve blood flow and potentially stave off arterial plaque build-up.
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